Nonbinary rule - eviltoast
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      6 months ago

      I am not from the US, why isn’t it safe? Doesn’t it have a safety where you can turn the gun off?

      • Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I believe proper gun safety teaches people to treat every gun as loaded and safety off. Same reason it’s extremely unsafe to point a supposedly empty gun at someone.

        • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.zip
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          ‘Never point any firearm at anything you are not intending to destroy’ is like rule one of any gun range or weapons safety course.

          This is taught not only to instill fear and respect, but because weapon malfunctions and user errors happen, and they maim and kill people.

          I have had squib rounds on the range, and shitty .22 ammo go off 4 seconds after i pulled the trigger. Had I just assumed it was immediately a dud and gone to clear it without waiting, I could have shot the person in the next stall.

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        Many pistols have safeties and/or hammers that can be easily set to an unsafe when carried like this, if you bump into something or even lean the wrong way.

        Theres also the chance of blowing your genitals off or shooting yourself in the hips, upper legs, in a way thats fairly likely to paralyze you or kill you from blood loss from shooting your genitals or femoral artery, if you manage to disengage the safety and also pull the trigger, or draw the weapon improperly in a state of basically threatened panic. Statistically this is rare, but it has happened more than once.

        Imagine sitting and then standing and then sitting again with your gun like this.

        Ok, now imagine walking or jogging or running and then stopping suddenly. Or even leaning over to reach something.

        In addition to being just very uncomfortable with a gun digging into your stomach and crotch, probably the actual main reason this is stupid is that it just is not actually secure, the gun is likely to accidentally fall out and not go off, but scatter across the floor and scare the shit out of everyone nearby.

        In … most (?) of the US, its probably accidentally a crime (brandishing) to even accidentally reveal a concealed weapon without an imminent threat to your person, though this will vary greatly by state, locality and the situation.

        Holsters exist to solve this problem.

        The closest thing to this that people actually are Appendix Inside Waistband Holsters that clip onto a belt, and go under an overshirt, but over an undershirt, or what are called Belly Bands for non belted people, those are basically underarmor style waistbands with shaped pockets.

        In reality these are generally fairly uncomfortable for most people I’ve ever known that carry a gun on a regular basis.

      • JillyB@beehaw.org
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        Many/most guns don’t have a safety. It carried, they should be in a holster that covers the trigger. When you draw it, it’s ready to fire.

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        Basically, imagine every gun has a laser beam coming out the end. If that laser lights something up, that something is in danger.

      • cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world
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        It’s drawn for comedic effect, but ideally it should be in a proper holster (it can still be in that area, like an appendix holster), that covers the trigger and protects the hammer - prevents it from falling out - and also ensures the weapon is always pointing slightly away from the body towards the ground

      • _NoName_@lemmy.ml
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        In the US? Dudes love glocks here, so fewer guns have anything but a trigger/grip safety.