Police in the town of Savage, Minnesota, are now investigating an attack on a little girl at a local school by assailants, schoolchildren, who told officials they beat her up because "she wasn't Muslim."
you should also be able to show a single example of a white supremacist who isn’t part of that problem.
You still have not given any reason why a good white supremists would make white supremacy less dangerous.
I argue racism is a much larger threat because it is pervasive throughout our society
It’s not pervasive. Further you need to show racism is the same thing as white supremacy if you plan on using racism as a stand in for white supremacy. You even have said white supremacy is rare.
You want statistics which are out there and available, I will not provide them
You can’t provide them, the only statistic you provided showed white supremacy murders were rare.
It’s not my job anyway. Educate yourself on the struggles of your fellow citizens.
The fact that you actually responded with this tells me you _still _ can’t see past your own privilege to recognize my point was comparing Muslims to White Supremacists is an apples and oranges comparison unless you can show that there is a portion of white supremacists that, like Muslims who do not interpret their faith’s message to justify violence, do not interpret white supremacy as a justification for racism.
I’ll take that to mean that you concede that a good white supremists would not make white supremists less dangerous to society.
The whole point of comparing things is to highlight how they are different and the same. Apples and oranges are fruits… see different things can be compared.
You either can’t understand why that’s a dumb comparison, or you’re refusing to admit it’s a dumb comparison. Either way it’s what’s causing us to keep this thread going. It’ll stop when you want it to.
I asked a question about how you treat other rare occurrences, you falling for the propaganda seems to be the answer.
the entirety of western society and the way it operates has roots in racism and white supremacy. White supremacy is a form of racism. I’ve already spelled this out multiple times and there is no way to be clearer about it. I’m beginning to think you’re just not capable of understanding.
What does that have to do with white supremacy being prevalent now? Does that mean I can judge current Muslims by what Muslims did in the past?
gestures wildly at modern society
But can’t provide examples.
Defend your comment, then I’ll defend mine. Otherwise it’s just obvious you didn’t have a follow up and are just trying to claim superiority in this thread. Not gonna happen without backing up your statement.
I have backed up my statement a good white supremists doesn’t make any acts by white supremists less rare. The “good guys” are not important when looking at bad things.
Prove it, give me an example of what a “good” white supremacist is.
You still don’t get it, what would one good white supremists change? With one good white supremists would they become less of a threat? If a group has 10 murders in it does the group become less dangerous if the 11th is not a murderer?
Now you’re focusing on the semantics of an idiom which means “comparing that which cannot be practically compared” (source) rather than provide anything substantial that can lead me to agree with you. Congratulations, you failed at making your point again.
How about this. What makes the rarity of white supremists instances of violence incomparable to the rarity of Muslim instances of violence?
Because society is the example.
Here are a few specifics though, if you insist:
The British Royal Empire and impact on the slave trade
Slave migrations to the New World
Trail of tears
All rooted in white supremacy, all resulted in complete or partial genocides, all formed the basis of modern western society which still tends to treat people differently due to race/ethnicity.
You forgot that they all happened a long time ago. How does the trail of tears, slave trade, make white supremacy a danger today?
I want you to respond in kind with proof of your first comment that there is such a thing as a “good” white supremacist.
I’ve never made this claim, it’s a flat out falsehood on your part. I assume it’s because your whole argument hinges on this lie.
You haven’t backed up shit because you haven’t given an example of what a “good” white supremacist is.
I don’t have to, the rarity of bad people doing bad things in not affected by a good person being part of that group.
I can’t argue with someone who steps into a thread, tries to make a comparison, then refuses to provide a single example of why their comparison is right, then goes on to continually project that they’re the correct and rational one while it’s the other one that’s refusing to do those things.
You are just stuck on a nonsense requirement that there by has to be a good white supremists but you can’t answer any of my questions as to why.
I’m simply asking you to go first, since you’re the one that made the comparison. That’s all.
I stated multiple times there doesn’t need to be a good white supremists provided rational for why, none of which you have tried to dispute
f you can’t do that then why are you even here if not to just project and troll?
If you are so eager to have a discussion then you would answer my questions or rebut my reasoning. Instead you keep repeating that there needs to be a good white supremists without providing reasoning.
Here are some questions to ponder.
what would one good white supremists change?
With one good white supremists would they become less of a threat?
If a group has 10 murders in it does the group become less dangerous if the 11th is not a murderer?
What makes the rarity of white supremists instances of violence incomparable to the rarity of Muslim instances of violence?
How does the trail of tears, slave trade, make white supremacy a danger today?
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You still have not given any reason why a good white supremists would make white supremacy less dangerous.
It’s not pervasive. Further you need to show racism is the same thing as white supremacy if you plan on using racism as a stand in for white supremacy. You even have said white supremacy is rare.
You can’t provide them, the only statistic you provided showed white supremacy murders were rare.
Another excuse to not defend your position.
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I’ll take that to mean that you concede that a good white supremists would not make white supremists less dangerous to society.
The whole point of comparing things is to highlight how they are different and the same. Apples and oranges are fruits… see different things can be compared.
I asked a question about how you treat other rare occurrences, you falling for the propaganda seems to be the answer.
What does that have to do with white supremacy being prevalent now? Does that mean I can judge current Muslims by what Muslims did in the past?
But can’t provide examples.
I have backed up my statement a good white supremists doesn’t make any acts by white supremists less rare. The “good guys” are not important when looking at bad things.
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You still don’t get it, what would one good white supremists change? With one good white supremists would they become less of a threat? If a group has 10 murders in it does the group become less dangerous if the 11th is not a murderer?
How about this. What makes the rarity of white supremists instances of violence incomparable to the rarity of Muslim instances of violence?
You forgot that they all happened a long time ago. How does the trail of tears, slave trade, make white supremacy a danger today?
I’ve never made this claim, it’s a flat out falsehood on your part. I assume it’s because your whole argument hinges on this lie.
I don’t have to, the rarity of bad people doing bad things in not affected by a good person being part of that group.
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You are just stuck on a nonsense requirement that there by has to be a good white supremists but you can’t answer any of my questions as to why.
I stated multiple times there doesn’t need to be a good white supremists provided rational for why, none of which you have tried to dispute
If you are so eager to have a discussion then you would answer my questions or rebut my reasoning. Instead you keep repeating that there needs to be a good white supremists without providing reasoning.
Here are some questions to ponder.
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