Hamas says British-Israeli hostage has died from airstrike wounds - eviltoast

Nadav Popplewell, 51, abducted from Nirim kibbutz on 7 October, was reportedly wounded in Israeli airstrike more than a month ago

Archived version: https://archive.ph/UqX5p

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        6 months ago

        Yes, but is that his fault? It’s disingenuous to disregard that Hamas was the ones that actually kidnapped him in the first place and from what I can recall most hostages are/were treated quite poorly. The article also mentioned that there is signs of physical abuse on him. In general, people that take people hostage aren’t quite nice people. (And no I’m not talking about the Palestinian civilians)

        And because I know this crowd: Does this in any way excuse the thousands of Palestinian civilian deaths? No, of fucking course not.

        He is still a civilian and his death is as tragic as any other civilian death. He is still a fucking human that did absolutely nothing wrong, just like the Palestinian civilians.

        It’s almost impossible to discuss this war with people (and especially on Lemmy) You really have to add disclaimers and shit everywhere, otherwise you are either a Nazi for hating Jews or you eat Palestinian children for breakfast. Like this:

        • X did this bad thing.
        • But Y did this bad thing! Fuck you Nazi!
        • Yes Y also did a bad thing, but we are talking about what X did now. Everyone knows Y did a bad thing so there is no need to bring it up every single second.
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            6 months ago

            Just saying that his life matters regardless of his nationality. You and the other user seemed to think that Israeli civilians are somehow worth less.

            Your reply and usage of the shrugging emoji seemed to imply that this death was his fault or that it didn’t matter just because an Israeli airstrike was involved.

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              6 months ago

              let me tell you what i implied, he wouldn’t have died if israel wasn’t a genocidal maniac. there you go.

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                Okay, and how is that relevant? Is it his fault or something?

                I really don’t get why you think it’s relevant at all when we are talking about a civilian’s death.

                Some idiot said “who cares” about his death because apparently Israeli civilians don’t deserve to live or something I dunno. I said that the victim was still a civilian.

                And you essentially just shrugged. The only way I can interpret that is that you think Israeli civilian lives don’t matter.

                Please just fuck off, people like you just make everyone else believe that supporters of Palestine are bad people (or as they put it “Nazis”) and that they think that Israel should be cleansed. I’m not saying you think that but you have a special ability to be a fucking idiot and say shit that some would possibly attribute to “Nazis”.

                TLDR: Just fuck off.

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                  6 months ago

                  bruh, can’t you read? i literally spelled it out for you. where did i say it his fault? WHERE? he wouldn’t have died if his GOVERNMENT not actively doing genocide.

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                    6 months ago

                    I never said you said it was his fault.

                    I asked you again because that is the only thing that I would blame on him personally. It’s obviously not his fault and thus his death is unfortunate.

                    Please take a course in reading comprehension.

                    It doesn’t matter at all what his “GOVERMENT” did.

                    There are three parties in this war: Israel/IDF, Hamas, and civilians.

                    A persons country of origin is completely irrelevant when it comes to civilians. It’s always bad that civilians die no matter what any non-civilian party did.

                    He was a civilian, and he was killed because of actions from both non-civilian parties. Saying that his death doesn’t matter (which you absolutely implied in response to my comment, both in writing and in emoji) just because someone else killed him doesn’t make it less of a tragedy. And the fact that you dismissed his death just because the IDF had a part in killing, makes you a pretty terrible person.

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                6 months ago

                You implied that here:

                he died from israel air strike 🤷🏻‍♂️

                I assume you know how to read and what that emoji means so I won’t have to explain it to you.

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      6 months ago

      This is a friendly fire incident where they killed one of their own… But what makes the news… The friendly fire… Nothing about the genocide is mentioned.

      Israelis have to do military service. The civilians can sit and swivel too as far as I’m concerned… Again… Fuck israel!!!

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        6 months ago

        It’s not realistic to mention every single thing about the war in every single article.

        I also don’t like the situation but acting like that when innocent people die regardless of the victims country of origin, is just pathetic.

        You don’t even have to act sad, all you had to do was not being an asshole.