China helping to arm Russia with helicopters, drones and metals - eviltoast
  • barsoap@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Probably not for long given the state of the Rouble and the economy. Tech-wise Russia has nothing to offer and when it comes to the stuff China might be interested in, such as ores and oil, well you’d have to not send miners to the front to continue producing them. That Russia of all countries is importing metals should make you stop and think.

    Lenin is rotating in his mausoleum.

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      The funniest part of this comment is the idea that Russia will get so desperate for troops that they’ll be unable to operate mines

      Soviet industrial capacity greatly increased over the course of WWII

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Yeah, but that was the Soviets. These are capitalists. Capitalists suck at war economics and I’m not even sure it’s plausible under modern finance capitalism. I agree they’re not likely to run out of troops any time soon, but I don’t think we’re likely to see economic gains like WWII.

        • 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          I also don’t think we’re going to see industrial development on par with WWII. My point is that during WWII:

          • The USSR suffered something like 25 million deaths, orders of magnitude above even the wildest propaganda about current Russian losses
          • They still had the labor power to not only run their industrial base, but to build much of it from scratch

          It’s a country of around 143 million, and I saw an (undoubtedly cautious) estimates of 11 million+ military age men. They had something like 1.2 million military personnel before the war.

          Just a basic understanding of demographics and even one historical example should tell anyone that “they are so short on people they can’t even run their industry” is absurd.

    • KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Tech-wise Russia has nothing to offer

      Oh no, their Twitter and Facebook exports are too low. They’ll have to scrape by on checks notes one of the world’s largest supplies of oil, precious metals, and other natural resources. Surely, the Russian economy will collapse any second now!

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        Plus their weapon systems are probably looking pretty good after surviving a sustained assault from a NATO trained, led, and supplied army.

    • UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      Russia provides a buffer, it’s the same thing as North Korea. China aids NK to keep US allies as far away from themselves as possible.