About the bear... - eviltoast

So, I’m just assuming we’ve all seen the discussions about the bear.
Personally I feel that this is an opportunity for everyone to stop and think a little about it. The knee-jerk reaction from many men seems to be something along the lines of “You would choose a dangerous animal over me? That makes me feel bad about myself.” which results in endless comments of the “Akchully… according to Bayes theorem you are much more likely to…” kind.
It should be clear by now that it doesn’t lead to good places.
Maybe, and I’m open to being wrong, but maybe the real message is women saying: “We are scared of unknown men.”
Then, if that is the message intended, what do we do next? Maybe the best thing is just to listen. To ask questions. What have you experienced to make you feel that way?
I firmly believe that the empathy we give lays a foundation for other people being willing to have empathy for the things we try to communicate.
It doesn’t mean we should feel bad about ourselves, but just to recognize that someone is trying to say something, and it’s not a technical discussion about bears.
What do you think?

    • Reddfugee42@lemmy.world
      207·
      6 months ago

      Yeah, it seems the guys that heard this and just said “yeah, that tracks” have already done the thought process/critical analysis that this movement is trying to evoke

      • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
        143·
        6 months ago

        I take it personally because I hate that this is the world we’re living in

        Literally not personal. It’s not about you, specifically.

          • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
            71·
            6 months ago

            You can feel sad. I’m also unhappy about how I’m often viewed as a threat.

            But it’s not personal. They’re not looking at me, jjj, and saying I specifically scare them.

            Maybe you meant something else by “take it personally”?

            Like there’s a difference between not being allowed into the bar because it’s full and because you got drunk and smashed a chair last time. The second is personal.

          • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
            41·
            6 months ago

            depends - as a related question - do you feel sad about locking your door because thieves exist and people didn’t lock their doors until about 80-90 years ago?

            would you and do you leave your door unlocked as a sign of solidarity with the victims of theft?

            like with the original question I’m not literally asking you - I’m saying there are accepted norms in society that change.

            I dont think this question really explores a lot of global or historical context either. Do women in the 1890s in Africa feel safe alone with men? What about women in 1620s France? 1200 Roman empire? 200 BC Jordan?

    • No_@lemm.ee
      28·
      6 months ago

      Or just gay? You’re being an ass.

      Downvoted for being gay. So now you’re a misandrist and a homophobe. Are you collecting them?