The reason is that Sony wants more data. There’s no technical reason for it, as the game has already worked fine without it for months. This is just Sony clamping down on a promise they quietly made and that most people forgot about.
As for the extra hoops, if you’re still wanting to play the game and don’t already have a PSN account, you’ll need to make a free one and link it. It shouldn’t require any additional logins after the initial link, so after the initial account setup there shouldn’t be any additional change to the process of logging in and playing.
There’s no technical reason for it, as the game has already worked fine without it for months
Well, sort of. Friend requests between PC and PS5 have been borked for a long time now, recently they changed how account ID’s are generated randomly to now looking like it’s a specific ID. I wouldn’t be surprised if linking accounts was part of this in a skeezy way.
The worst part is I have a PSN account but I haven’t had a console since the PS2 lol.
They’ve published single-player games. For single-player games, the only metric that matters is sales. If the game sold well, they can make a sequel, and if it sold poorly, they won’t make another. For live-service games, the metric that matters is Monthly Active Users, because the more users you have the more likely some of them will buy something in your live-service cash shop.
Hey has anyone checked on Destiny recently? They’re also published by Sony, do they require a PSN account? or do they get away with it because Destiny 2 was originally more of a partnership?
I read that Sony is doing it for security reasons for safety/grieving and that the game did originally require a PSN login at launch, but stopped it at launch. But I am guessing this is just them saying hey we have this many people using PSN accounts. No other reason to have Steam prompt for login for anything besides the Steam account
If you’re banned on steam for shitting up the game, they don’t want you making a new account to shit it up on PSN. And vice versa. Currently you can get banned in game on steam and just pack up and move to PSN.
It means to be an incessant troll you would have to limit your account spam to the PSN side, which requires 2 factor, or make more steam accounts as well.
So halving the troll problem for Arrowhead by not having them chase two separate account systems.
It is likely also so that matchmaking and player counts on the PSN side can be accurate. If there are 300k people playing, but the PSN only reports half of that, it makes the game population seem much smaller for new users.
Honestly i treat it like Origin or EPIC. I don’t love having to have it, but the benefits out weight the demerits, and I have the account anyways.
Sony published the game. You already need a PSN account for cross play, but it wasn’t required, you just didn’t get crossplay. Now you need it to play. A PSN account is free. I’ve had one for a decade+ and have never even owned a Playstation. Not that big of a deal in my opinion. You will just have to sign in. It is less invasive than a CDPR account for Cyberpunk and Witcher or ubisoft for farcry, or EA for all the others. PSN doesn’t even require an additional piece of software launcher like the rest. You literally sign in, in game, and never think about it again. Not that big of a deal.
Am I missing something? The link only talks about account migration and the rewards that I mentioned in my previous comment. There’s no mention of crossplay.
And yeah, obviously you would need to link your PS or Xbox account to use account migration. That’s how that feature works. Cyberpunk and Witcher are singleplayer games, crossplay wouldn’t apply anyway.
At the bottom of the article, under “Can I opt out?”:
If you choose to opt out, please note that on March 5th, 2024 you will lose access to Cross Progression, My Rewards, and RED Forums, and all connected data will be permanently deleted.
Again, it’s not a deal breaker for me, and not nearly as bad as needing an account to even play, but I felt it was at least worth bringing up.
Cross progression isn’t cross play. Cross progression is when you can take a save on one device and continue it on another one, like from PlayStation to Xbox or PC.
And, obviously, that could only work by linking accounts. There’s literally no other way that could work.
Crazy, I couldn’t play with any of my PS friends until I linked. Hmmm I guess I am wrong, internet man says so 🤷♂️ It is crazy watching the hivemind turn on shit. OH NO! MY DATA MIGHT GET STOLEN! As they type their response on an android phone, or a windows computer. MY PRECIOUS DATA! I couldn’t possibly be competent enough to take even the simplist of measures to seperate it if I am worried, like a ghost email and a one off password. How dare they mildly inconvenience me!. I am going to turn on the ONE game that hasn’t tried to fuck me in the ass like every other game because the internet told me to be mad!
It’s just a shitty thing to do though. The game was working 100% fine without an extra account and now you can’t play without it. It’s annoying for some and, for countries without PSN, potentially the end of the game being playable.
Annoying maybe, but not on par with the $70 games with micro transactions that make the game pay to win when the games are just rehashed battle Royale games. It’s the same game OVER AND OVER AND OVER. Signing in to a PSN account might be annoying, but my God it is small potatoes with everything else going on these days and it is something beyond the DEVs control. I feel like that perspective is lost. This game is a diamond in a giant pile of turds. The devs have done everything in their control to keep it clean, but some things are beyond their control.
As far as the people in countries without PSN, if they don’t make it right (either by removing the requirement for them or refunding), then that is bullshit. But I don’t think Arrowhead is out to screw anyone.
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The reason is that Sony wants more data. There’s no technical reason for it, as the game has already worked fine without it for months. This is just Sony clamping down on a promise they quietly made and that most people forgot about.
As for the extra hoops, if you’re still wanting to play the game and don’t already have a PSN account, you’ll need to make a free one and link it. It shouldn’t require any additional logins after the initial link, so after the initial account setup there shouldn’t be any additional change to the process of logging in and playing.
Well, sort of. Friend requests between PC and PS5 have been borked for a long time now, recently they changed how account ID’s are generated randomly to now looking like it’s a specific ID. I wouldn’t be surprised if linking accounts was part of this in a skeezy way.
The worst part is I have a PSN account but I haven’t had a console since the PS2 lol.
The reason is that sony is the publisher for the game
Sony has published other games that made it to pc, like horizon zero dawn, that don’t require a Sony account so that isn’t really the reason
They’ve published single-player games. For single-player games, the only metric that matters is sales. If the game sold well, they can make a sequel, and if it sold poorly, they won’t make another. For live-service games, the metric that matters is Monthly Active Users, because the more users you have the more likely some of them will buy something in your live-service cash shop.
Hey has anyone checked on Destiny recently? They’re also published by Sony, do they require a PSN account? or do they get away with it because Destiny 2 was originally more of a partnership?
I read that Sony is doing it for security reasons for safety/grieving and that the game did originally require a PSN login at launch, but stopped it at launch. But I am guessing this is just them saying hey we have this many people using PSN accounts. No other reason to have Steam prompt for login for anything besides the Steam account
If you’re banned on steam for shitting up the game, they don’t want you making a new account to shit it up on PSN. And vice versa. Currently you can get banned in game on steam and just pack up and move to PSN.
It means to be an incessant troll you would have to limit your account spam to the PSN side, which requires 2 factor, or make more steam accounts as well.
So halving the troll problem for Arrowhead by not having them chase two separate account systems.
It is likely also so that matchmaking and player counts on the PSN side can be accurate. If there are 300k people playing, but the PSN only reports half of that, it makes the game population seem much smaller for new users.
Honestly i treat it like Origin or EPIC. I don’t love having to have it, but the benefits out weight the demerits, and I have the account anyways.
Sony published the game. You already need a PSN account for cross play, but it wasn’t required, you just didn’t get crossplay. Now you need it to play. A PSN account is free. I’ve had one for a decade+ and have never even owned a Playstation. Not that big of a deal in my opinion. You will just have to sign in. It is less invasive than a CDPR account for Cyberpunk and Witcher or ubisoft for farcry, or EA for all the others. PSN doesn’t even require an additional piece of software launcher like the rest. You literally sign in, in game, and never think about it again. Not that big of a deal.
Cyberpunk and Witcher don’t require a CDPR account, it’s optional for some cosmetic rewards in the respective games.
So really the only companies doing this are Ubisoft and EA. Sony’s in great company…
And also CrossPlay…
Don’t get me wrong, it’s better than requiring the account to play the game, but it’s still kind of a disappointing move.
Am I missing something? The link only talks about account migration and the rewards that I mentioned in my previous comment. There’s no mention of crossplay.
And yeah, obviously you would need to link your PS or Xbox account to use account migration. That’s how that feature works. Cyberpunk and Witcher are singleplayer games, crossplay wouldn’t apply anyway.
At the bottom of the article, under “Can I opt out?”:
Again, it’s not a deal breaker for me, and not nearly as bad as needing an account to even play, but I felt it was at least worth bringing up.
Cross progression isn’t cross play. Cross progression is when you can take a save on one device and continue it on another one, like from PlayStation to Xbox or PC.
And, obviously, that could only work by linking accounts. There’s literally no other way that could work.
Factually incorrect. I never linked up and have played with at least one person I knew was on PlayStation.
Crazy, I couldn’t play with any of my PS friends until I linked. Hmmm I guess I am wrong, internet man says so 🤷♂️ It is crazy watching the hivemind turn on shit. OH NO! MY DATA MIGHT GET STOLEN! As they type their response on an android phone, or a windows computer. MY PRECIOUS DATA! I couldn’t possibly be competent enough to take even the simplist of measures to seperate it if I am worried, like a ghost email and a one off password. How dare they mildly inconvenience me!. I am going to turn on the ONE game that hasn’t tried to fuck me in the ass like every other game because the internet told me to be mad!
It’s just a shitty thing to do though. The game was working 100% fine without an extra account and now you can’t play without it. It’s annoying for some and, for countries without PSN, potentially the end of the game being playable.
Annoying maybe, but not on par with the $70 games with micro transactions that make the game pay to win when the games are just rehashed battle Royale games. It’s the same game OVER AND OVER AND OVER. Signing in to a PSN account might be annoying, but my God it is small potatoes with everything else going on these days and it is something beyond the DEVs control. I feel like that perspective is lost. This game is a diamond in a giant pile of turds. The devs have done everything in their control to keep it clean, but some things are beyond their control.
As far as the people in countries without PSN, if they don’t make it right (either by removing the requirement for them or refunding), then that is bullshit. But I don’t think Arrowhead is out to screw anyone.