'New Vegas is a very, very important game to us,' says mildly exasperated Todd Howard, who will never stop getting grilled about New Vegas - eviltoast
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    7 months ago

    Lol this article goes out of its way to try and tamp down the New Vegas controversy.

    A) no it’s not a stretch to look at the chalkboard in the show and see that the dates do not line up with new vegas’ timeline.

    B) Josh Sawyer didn’t say he didn’t care what they did with fallout because he actually didn’t care but because he has had to make peace with the fact that he doesn’t control it anymore

    C) Tim Cain said he loved the look and feel of the world in the show, not the plot elements or then retconning NV, and basically just said maybe the whiteboard is a lie / I don’t control it anymore so I’m not going to publicly criticize it but posted links to the timeline descrepencies.

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      7 months ago

      new vegas fans can never understand plot points unless a character has 5 minute exposition explaining it

      like fuck, do people really not know what an arrow means? did nobody play new vegas and realize the ncr was spread way too thin in new vegas? they couldnt even send troops to their defenses that are right next to legion territory, basically left them to die. hell new vegas talks a lot about how the ncr is barely holding on. how does that not tie in to the chalkboard timeline exactly? i seriously dont understand the confusion about it

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        like fuck, do people really not know what an arrow means?

        Like fuck, do you not know that “fall of the NCR” happening before the events of New Vegas is a clear retcon at best, and nuking Shady Sands immediately after NV ends is completely shitting on all the themes of hope in the NV narrative?

        I seriously don’t understand how you can read that whiteboard and think “oh yeah, they’re totally respecting the NV cannon”.

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          7 months ago

          how is it a retcon at all? you clearly never played new vegas, considering that nuking the ncr is something the player can fucking do

          get over it, you are just a bethesda hater, grasping at straws

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            7 months ago

            No man, you’re a tod Howard dick rider for some reason who refuses to acknowledge that the show clearly put no effort into respecting NV cannon, or intentionally mislead fans into thinking that’s what they were doing. It doesnt take a fucking genius to look at that whiteboard and realize that it conflicts with the literal year that NV takes place.

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              no it doesnt. you dont even know the lore of new vegas or the ncr, because the ncr is massive yet in new vegas they were spread too thin, their president was not well liked, they are desperate to get hoover dam for some reason (maybe they’ve idk started to fall?)

              and you fail to even see that there is an arrow pointing to a nuke. do you really not know that an arrow indicates time passing? do you really not know that the ncr did not capital in shady sands anymore?

              you must think it would be a better idea to pretend new vegas never existed than to incorporate it into something new again. you must really hate new vegas to think that