'You're asking the accused ['Israel'] to investigate itself?' - eviltoast
  • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    8 months ago

    Who is going to let another country investigate their Military during an ongoing war? Isreal has to be the one to provide the reports its not that unexpected or out of the ordinary.

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        8 months ago

        I think the us values the billion dollar arms contracts over preserving the quality of this investigation. It sucks because Biden can’t even be pressured with voting because the otherside has a worse stance.

        • Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works
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          8 months ago

          The other side will always have a worse stance on everything, that means you can never pressure the Dems. That’s not a good enough reason.

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            8 months ago

            You can pressure them 100% I’m not trying to stop you there. but I don’t think many people are not voting or changing their votes over this issue. I think the dems know this and know they don’t have to change their stance.

            Do you think this is a fair assessment?

            • Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works
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              8 months ago

              That’s fair, if they think they can risk it that’s on them.

              I’d hope they would cater to voters and try to win them over, but I guess this election isn’t too serious for them to care.

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          8 months ago

          That’s a fine attitude for penne ante stuff. But this is emergent and killing thousands of people right in front of us. We either pressure him or throw our values out the window anyways.

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      8 months ago

      They should be forced to let independent investigators investigate whatever Israel like it or not. There is investigations in ukraine during the war. Not even russia allies would say russia should investigate themselves

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      8 months ago

      Without US support Israel would cease to exist within a year, so the US can do whatever it pleases. Second, the investigation does not need to be performed by a military but can also be done by neutral observers.

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      8 months ago

      Do you have other specific examples? Preferably with sources. As a layman it’s very unexpected, I’d like to learn more.

      • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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        8 months ago

        I don’t have any examples but I would change my stance if there were examples of countries letting others investigate their military in the middle of a war.

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        8 months ago

        A bit different (since there was no war yet and it wasn’t about the military) but after the assassination of Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo, Austria requested to send their own police to investigate the case around the “Black Hand” (the terror organisation that assassinated him).

        It really isn’t unusual for countries to deny foreign investigation.

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          8 months ago

          That particular denial cascaded into a string of events that wiped out nearly a generation of people.