Seeing much more tankie from ml lately - eviltoast
  • barsoap@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    7 months ago

    you trying to argue france is more socialist than china?

    France has, for European standards, a very large state sector. That’s what I was saying: They very much don’t shy away from taking state money and whipping it around in the economy to direct it – hence the term dirigisme. And no all those state-run nuclear power plants don’t need Nigerian uranium to run, they run on uranium from anywhere, and in fact do. Kazakhstan, Australia and Canada are all giant producers which don’t happen to be Russia or Nigeria.

    By and large colonialism has been a net economical loss for France.

    And don’t get me started on China and imperialism, just like Russia China, in its current form, is an imperial empire. France’s attitude towards its colonial history is a whole other topic but at least they don’t currently have a genocide going on.

    Also France has better healthcare, pension, heck even housing and that’s despite of Banlieus.

    • umbrella@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      a very large state sector

      socialism doesnt have much to do with how big the state is, and aims ultimately to end it. thats a very common strawman for comparing apples to oranges though.

      By and large colonialism has been a net economical loss for France.

      ahahahahahahahahahahaha what the fuck. try to find out what european interests are doing to africa if you want to have a peek at actually real imperialism and genocide, happening right now. nothing about history here, this is still the present.

      i was actually going to engage further but you are either trolling or need to seriously humble yourself and leave the bubble you are in, because the stuff you are saying is comically nonfactual.

      • barsoap@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        7 months ago

        socialism doesnt have much to do with how big the state is

        I never claimed it did. I was comparing France and China. Both have a large state sector, and both have capitalist economies. Again, please, have a look at the number of Chinese billionaires you don’t get there without capital accumulation.

        try to find out what european interests are doing to africa if you want to have a peek at actually real imperialism and genocide,

        “It’s only imperialism and genocide if it’s profitable”, is that what you’re saying?