Microsoft will now urge you to ditch local accounts on Windows 10 - eviltoast
    • ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee
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      7 months ago

      The cloud is just someone else’s computer. If we could normalize people holding their own data, that would be fantastic. I get that your grandma has a hard time backing up to multiple locations (and testing her backups). Convenient? Definitely. I just don’t think your average person understands the ramifications of trusting these for-profit monopolies with complete control of their data. It seems like a magical refuge to far too many.

      • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        Although, the usual two caveats still apply:

        First, isn’t the operative problem “for-profit monopolies”, not “cloud data storage”, as in, it just needs to be state-owned and open?

        Second, in the vast vast vast majority of cases, people don’t care because if someone stole all their online data, the problem would not be the data stolen. It’d be having to set up a new account as the password got changed, getting the card blocked and getting a new one, etc. It’s like a wallet being lost, it sucks and is annoying but we don’t all glue the wallets to the inside of our pockets just to prevent that. Meaning, even given knowledge of the issue, most would say the downside is not an actual downside to them given the convenience and the time it saves. (That’s why it works in the first place, mind you)

    • Telorand@reddthat.com
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      7 months ago

      Linking your account stores your activation key on your account. For most people, this means they never have to bother with programs like Magical Jelly Bean and writing the key down somewhere only to be lost.

      Using a local-only account doesn’t increase your ownership in this case.

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    7 months ago

    And not being able to log into my own fucking machine if I lose internet access, or if Microsoft servers are on fire? Absolutely fucking not.

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      7 months ago

      If? As someone who works for a Microsoft CSP there is no if, it is always a when.

      But in all seriousness the you don’t auth to ms when you login. You have a local pin that only works on that system.

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        7 months ago

        Yeah I know my internet craps itself out every now and then, it’s just a fact of life. I like my things on my machines to work regardless of that.

        Anyway, that second explanation, doesn’t sound much better. Then again, I don’t think I’m going to use Windows again when 10 goes EoL.

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    7 months ago

    The bullshit I put up with. Goddamn.

    That full screen win 11 thing had me going for a while until I noticed the “opt out” button. When an OS starts to become obtrusive, I start to look for alternatives. The primary reason I use Windoze is because of gaming and most of that is through Steam. SO, now that the Steam Deck has pushed some great improvements in gaming on Linux, Linux MINT may be in my near future.

    I already use open office on my home machine instead of the MS Office I have to use at work.

    Keep pushing M$. You’ll push me right away.

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      7 months ago

      Highly highly recommend Nobara over Mint if you’re primarily going to be gaming. It’s a fork of Fedora by Glorious Eggshell Eggroll (the guy behind Proton-GE), who himself works for Redhat.

      It. just. works.

      v40 should be out within a week or two of Fedora 40 dropping on the 23rd.

      Edit: Wrong Egg-thing

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          7 months ago

          Side from being really out of date, yeah, it’s a good distro. Once they finally finish Cosmic Desktop, I may give it another look.

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        7 months ago

        I tried Fedora a while ago and this seems like the perfect answer to some or my gripes with it

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          7 months ago

          That’d be doable. A lot of people would recommend installing it to a separate drive so that windows cant try overwriting boot partitions or anything. Also If its anything like standard fedora I’m sure that windows will still show up as a listing in grub so you won’t have to switch boot drives in the bios constantly

          • mister_newbie@sh.itjust.works
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            7 months ago

            Pretty much all this. I do use my OS drive to dual boot both windows and Nobara. Grub does the heavy lifting. Windows plays along fine.

    • azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works
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      7 months ago

      Interesting how long will it take for Microsoft to notice people are angry enough to try Linux to loose their dumb policies and their intrusive changes a little.

      There are some good advancements on the free desktop in general, that’s not only around gaming. Fingers crossed it gets good enough for at least some people to stay when there’s an influx of angry Windows users.

      Let’s he honest - Windows is not going anywhere anytime soon and it will keep dominating for years to come, no matter how intrusive and anti-consumer it becomes. That doesn’t mean we can’t have competitive system with significant user base (around 10% of desktop market would probably be just enough)

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      7 months ago

      I’m only on 11 because I want to learn it from a support perspective for work.

      I am not enjoying it. I swear I have to reboot multiple times a day, against Win 10 which was only for updates… or linux, and basically never lol.

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    7 months ago

    Didn’t they already do that? When you did a fresh install a couple years ago, there were already warnings that you should switch.

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      7 months ago

      Yeah, they made it obtrusive and difficult to setup local accounts. I think their whole system is confusing as fuck now, with PINs, windows hello shit, and a microsoft account password. I had to setup a whole new email just to get a kids account going, probably so they can track everything my kid is doing, which is downright creepy. So I tried to make a local account, but it seems like they’re still tracking that somehow anyway.

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        7 months ago

        Everyone using Windows should install a telemetry blocking program. This one just adds all Microsoft telemetry IP addresses into Windows Firewall with a “block” setting.

        Just don’t use the “Add update rules” feature because that blocks Windows Update. Just add the telemetry rules.

        In addition, you can also change the IP address Windows uses for the “Am I connected to the internet?” test that Windows does all the time. Instead of letting Microsoft know every single time you boot your PC or connect to WiFi, you can instead have it check a Debian server. Or a Mozilla one, I think.

        https://crazymax.dev/WindowsSpyBlocker/download/