YouTube: Google has found a way to break Invidious - eviltoast
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    8 months ago

    I kinda stop using these services after a while. I want the recommendation algorithm.

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      8 months ago

      Meh, discoverability isn’t really as much of a problem as people think it is. Add videos to your Watch Later from your Subscriptions tab, and as YouTubers you like do collaborations or recommendations, you’ll discover similar channels. Sometimes you’ll find a channel from a creator’s website or from a podcast, or from a social media feed you follow (reverse-chrono or most-liked only, please). It’s a world-wide web, and as much as companies try to sell you the myth of discoverability-as-a-service, that’s just a marketing tool. They need it to push ads and drive retention. You don’t need it at all, because the web already does that.

      I’m almost entirely off of black-box recommendation algorithms, and I still find new things I like. In fact, my to-watch, to-read, and to-listen queues are too big to handle in a reasonable amount of time. I regularly have to unsubscribe from things I don’t like as much anymore or risk getting deluged with too many things I want to see. But the bonus is, I don’t get anything I don’t want to see.

      Write your own algorithm. It’s a better life, and it barely takes any more time or effort. Just change your bookmarks and be willing to put in an extra click or two when you want to consume something.

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        8 months ago

        I don’t want to do all that just to watch a few videos a day.

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          8 months ago

          The difference is whether you watch a few videos you don’t really care about every day, or a few videos from creators you actually like and find interesting every day.

          Also, “all that?” Seriously? You just go to your Subscriptions tab instead of your Home tab, and that’s too much for you? lol

    • Chee_Koala@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Just the opposite for me, I disconnected because I’m done with Google, now I want to stay way so the algorithm can’t find me. I’ll check what I want to check, when I want it.

    • Parculis Marcilus@discuss.tchncs.de
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      8 months ago

      It’s fine tbh, but YouTube is really running out of great contents these days, and you have to constantly check the sources before being gaslighted. I would rather take my pace and search up things when I wanted.

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      8 months ago

      Seconded, the recommendations can help you discover new things, that you didn’t even know existed… that said, I can’t stand having someone stalk and monetize your every move.

      • InfiniWheel@lemmy.one
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        8 months ago

        I quite like it precisely because it provided no recommendations. I’m not enticed to waste time watching something I wasn’t interested in 3 seconds ago. If I want to watch something I have to look it up and that’s usually the end of it.

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        8 months ago

        that said, I can’t stand having someone stalk and monetize your every move

        Well, they can’t. I have an anonymus account only for youtube that I access only over the VPN with adblockers.

    • Justin@lemmy.jlh.name
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      8 months ago

      why are people downvoting you for wanting to use the algorithm recommendations?

      • lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        8 months ago

        Some people use downvotes to signalize a different opinion, which is kind of toxic. We want different opinions here. What we don’t want is hate, extremism, fake news, … That’s what deserves the downvotes.

        • redcalcium@lemmy.instituteOP
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          8 months ago

          People getting downvoted just for having a different opinion really annoys me. Same with seeing obvious trolls getting upvoted. It’s not ideal, but lemmy has an option to hide scores, and it makes browsing lemmy more pleasant to me.

    • Tja@programming.dev
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      8 months ago

      Same. I have new pipe on my phone but end up using the official app with premium more often.