In my experience in the tech industry, 10 days is standard for entry* level positions, but quickly grows as you advance your career. At some places you can accrue more than those 10 days as well, based on hours worked. A lot of places do the “unlimited PTO” thing too now, so 10 days for a pretty experienced person working at a successful tech company seems pretty paltry to me.
Yeah, 10 vacation days is pretty standard. Usually it’s like 10 vacation days + 2-5 sick days, so like 15 days max. After like 3-5 more years with the company, maybe you get like 20 days, but 25 like minimum is pretty rare imo
Unlimited PTO is often so employers don’t have to pay out vacation days as part of termination pay.
I’ve had ~25 days off for years, and was most of that time merely “developer”. My first career job was 3 weeks from day 1. I would gamble many of the people that work for LTT are otherwise in fields that would get more than 10 days per year starting. And I’m in the US. My Canadian friends always have better vacay and bennies than I do.
And I’m in the US. My Canadian friends always have better vacay and bennies than I do.
That is very far from the norm - at least, if we’re talking about salary. Typically, the pay is much lower here than you’d get in USA, especially for tech jobs. Silicon Valley is basically the tech hub of the world, after all.
I get 5 weeks at a smaller semiconductor fab in Oregon, that’s the industry standard for fabs in the Portland area. Intel has a mandatory month sebatacle after 5 years of employment I’ve heard.
0 days off if you haven’t worked the year before (technically illegal is the EU, and they will allow you to take paid days off if you file for “EU days off” but then they deduct it from your following year. Damn loopholes.)
12 if you haven’t worked but work 40 hours instead of 38
20 days off required bt government after the first year
10 or so national holidays that are paid by default
42 in total generally, with some rolling if unused.
Almost Unlimited sick days if you get doctor’s notes (there are also house visiting doctors and a normal doctor visit is 4€). Some jobs that are toxic will send doctors employed by them to your house to make sure you are sick.
10 days is the legal minimum in Canada and most companies don’t offer more than that unless you have lots of experience. My company caps at 15 days. So I say this is more of a Canada work culture problem than an LMG problem
Bro what the fuck. The legal minimum in Belgium is 20 days, and you also get 10 national holidays. 30+ days (not including those national holidays) isn’t exceptional. I can’t imagine only getting 10 days.
Here in Belgium, first year of working and working 38 hours: 0 holidays except national holidays 😂
But yeah outside europe, holidays are abysmal. India, maylaysia, and China are even worse than the Americas in many cases as far as holiday and conditions.
I totally agree. Where can I find the leaked handbook?
Edit: Found it
Lmao 10 paid days off if you’ve been there 2 years. Meanwhile EU and their average 25 days
Unfortunately, this is fairly standard for north america. 25 days off is kind of unheard of IMO unless you’re like director level.
In my experience in the tech industry, 10 days is standard for entry* level positions, but quickly grows as you advance your career. At some places you can accrue more than those 10 days as well, based on hours worked. A lot of places do the “unlimited PTO” thing too now, so 10 days for a pretty experienced person working at a successful tech company seems pretty paltry to me.
Yeah, 10 vacation days is pretty standard. Usually it’s like 10 vacation days + 2-5 sick days, so like 15 days max. After like 3-5 more years with the company, maybe you get like 20 days, but 25 like minimum is pretty rare imo
Unlimited PTO is often so employers don’t have to pay out vacation days as part of termination pay.
And it’s a psychological thing. Employees tend to actually use less time off in those places.
It’s not done or of the goodness of the employers heart.
I’ve had ~25 days off for years, and was most of that time merely “developer”. My first career job was 3 weeks from day 1. I would gamble many of the people that work for LTT are otherwise in fields that would get more than 10 days per year starting. And I’m in the US. My Canadian friends always have better vacay and bennies than I do.
That is very far from the norm - at least, if we’re talking about salary. Typically, the pay is much lower here than you’d get in USA, especially for tech jobs. Silicon Valley is basically the tech hub of the world, after all.
Yeah, I didn’t mention pay. I would take a pay cut to move to Canada. I have no illusions about that.
I get 5 weeks at a smaller semiconductor fab in Oregon, that’s the industry standard for fabs in the Portland area. Intel has a mandatory month sebatacle after 5 years of employment I’ve heard.
Sabbatical :)
Shit! Thanks, this is why I work at a lesser fab.
I live and work in Belgium.
0 days off if you haven’t worked the year before (technically illegal is the EU, and they will allow you to take paid days off if you file for “EU days off” but then they deduct it from your following year. Damn loopholes.)
12 if you haven’t worked but work 40 hours instead of 38
20 days off required bt government after the first year
10 or so national holidays that are paid by default
42 in total generally, with some rolling if unused.
Almost Unlimited sick days if you get doctor’s notes (there are also house visiting doctors and a normal doctor visit is 4€). Some jobs that are toxic will send doctors employed by them to your house to make sure you are sick.
After the first year it is quite nice.
They have to work up to a max of 10? I started at 14 and it just went up from there!
Pretty terrible deal compared to even the mandatory UK stuff. Our glorious hereditary not-dictator 🤴 will be greatly disappointed!
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10 days is the legal minimum in Canada and most companies don’t offer more than that unless you have lots of experience. My company caps at 15 days. So I say this is more of a Canada work culture problem than an LMG problem
Bro what the fuck. The legal minimum in Belgium is 20 days, and you also get 10 national holidays. 30+ days (not including those national holidays) isn’t exceptional. I can’t imagine only getting 10 days.
I can imagine it.
Here in Belgium, first year of working and working 38 hours: 0 holidays except national holidays 😂
But yeah outside europe, holidays are abysmal. India, maylaysia, and China are even worse than the Americas in many cases as far as holiday and conditions.
Same here, most collective labour agreements offer ~25. Also, sick days aren’t a thing.
Really? I’ve had friends in Canada who I used to vacation with, and none of them only had 2 weeks or 3 weeks as seniors.
Me too. I think they have an actual HR team now that isn’t just Yvonne.