Phil Spencer wants Epic Games Store and others on Xbox consoles - eviltoast
  • Lexi Sneptaur@pawb.social
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    6 months ago

    Yeah, to be honest, if Apple’s model is not legal, then neither is Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo…

    It’s a good argument.

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      6 months ago

      It’s not the same model though, is it? I can buy XBox, PS an Nintendo games in a shit ton of physical or digital stores. So there are different channels. There is no equivalent on iOS. If you don’t want to publish in the app store, no one will be able to install your app (developers with own certs and enterprise customers with mdm excluded).

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        6 months ago

        A chunk of those sales go to the platform, regardless of where they’re bought. And you can’t just sell an Xbox/playstation game without permission and royalties

      • Lexi Sneptaur@pawb.social
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        6 months ago

        This is true, but they’re also now selling digital-only consoles. For some customers, the digital store is their only choice.

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              6 months ago

              But not directly the apps. I can, however, for example buy codes for individual xbox games from different vendors.

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                6 months ago

                Right, but I feel that this method of distribution is very similar to gift cards in that the retailer has no control over pricing, promotions, etc. additionally, these codes cannot be re-used.

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      6 months ago

      if Apple’s model is not legal, then neither is Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo…

      Except it’s not about the model itself, it’s about market power. Neither game console maker has a monopoly, not even Nintendo.

      • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Are there any other virtual stores on the console? There’s obviously physical store fronts, but I’m pretty sure there’s only the one digitally on console.

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          6 months ago

          Are there any other virtual stores on the console?

          No but since none of the console vendors have a monopoly, antitrust laws don’t apply. They can do practically any shit as long as none have a dominant market position.

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              6 months ago

              Apple doesn’t have a monopoly though, there’s still Android.

              Based on revenue, it has, though. iPhones are being bought by people who spend more money in app stores than the average Android user.

      • golli@lemm.ee
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        6 months ago

        I agree that it is about market power, but one could make the argument that Xbox/PlayStation have a duopoly similar to iOS/Android.

        Although I think PlayStation dominated with roughly a 70/30 split worldwide (higher in Europe). Nintendo is somewhat in its own category imo, since they mostly do their own games and don’t directly compete in that sense.

        But I guess in a way consoles also compete with PCs.