Why do they say "there's no true Left in the US"? - eviltoast
  • genie@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    They are related (in practice) but I disagree that they’re one “and” the same. Freedom from domination can exist in the left or the right.

    Demonizing the views that you don’t hold as inherently opposed to freedom is how the US got to this point in this awful no spectrum of views two party system in the first place.

    (By the way, just noticed your username. How’re’ya’now bud?)

    • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      8 months ago

      Freedom from domination cannot exist in the right, as domination is the method by which production occurs. The right must whitewash domination, clean it, yet still use it, to operate.

        • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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          8 months ago

          No, not at all. I’m suggesting that when production is directed by an owner class, the worker class is dominated. If the workers collectively or individually own the means of production, there is no domination.

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            8 months ago

            On that point I’m with you! It’s painfully obvious in today’s wealth disparity in the US.

            Where it breaks down for me is your argument that it’s only possible to have a dominating dynamic in a right wing regime. Would you really argue that the CCP does not impose a dominating dynamic over the people of China?

            • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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              8 months ago

              My point was more that the right is necessarily dominating, while the left is conditionally so. The original point was that either side could be dominating or not, and I disagree with that, only the left has the chance to not be dominating because it’s a requirement for the right.