Dwarf Fortress creator blasts execs behind brutal industry layoffs: 'I think they're horrible… greedy, greedy people' - eviltoast
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    8 months ago

    this is talking about the full time artists/staff/programers who are always working on something

    This is talking about every worker isn’t it?

    Buddy, there is always a next project.

    No there isn’t.

    Programmers will always be optimizing the engine, working on patches for an updated build

    And when they aren’t needed since the next project is in story board and design mode… and the previous project has been shelved….? There’s not always work available 100% of the time, that’s just silly. Also, some outsource engines and don’t need programmers, so not at all actually.

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      How long do you think making a modern AAA game takes? If those big game companies only started working on a new game after shelving the previous one, they’d go bankrupt before it’s finished. That’s why they pretty much always have several projects in the works at any given time.

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      8 months ago

      Not a good idea to put all your eggs into one basket when running a business, mate. You always run multiple projects, and it doesn’t have to be games, to continue the cashflow.

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      Pre-production happens while the previous project is in active development so they can’t shift everyone over to the new project as soon as they can. They aren’t sitting on their hands to start that process until the previous one finishes.

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        What about studios that just make 1 or 2 games over 10 years? You’re ignoring the studios that put out the largest amount of games and talk about them like they are everyone else. Theres thousands of these studios compared to the dozens you are talking about like they are gospel.

        I’m sorry the industry is far larger with more intricacies than you thought. Even these small studios go through the same layoffs during downturns, it’s just not a big deal since it’s only a handful of employees. Even though that may be 20% of their work force, so that’s actually worse………

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          Pre-production still keeps a project ready to go when the previous one finishes. Trust me, I have a lot more knowledge on the industry than you do. I have several friends in the industry and have considered entering it myself. Studios don’t just lay employees off between projects. That’d be horribly wasteful. Any half decent producer will always have tasks for people to work on.

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            Trust me, I have a lot more knowledge on the industry than you do. I have several friends in the industry and have considered entering it myself.

            Oddly, I can also claim the same thing, that’s why I know that people get laid off between jobs, since it actually happens. Or course I could be making this up, just like you are.

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              I am not making it up. What you’re talking about used to happen a lot more, but even then it wasn’t that common. The small studios will often work on contract work if they didn’t have a projects of their own, and large studios have multiple projects going at the same time. One of my friends just recently they canceled their project but luckily didn’t lay them off and just switched them to a different ongoing project. Indie studios generally they wear many hats and everyone does pre-production, design, and other tasks.

              It’s too time consuming and expensive to train up all new staff every project. Maybe a handful get laid off, but it isn’t gig work. It’s unusual for that to happen.