91 criminal charges don’t mean shit when the government refuses to prosecute, and let’s you slide right into the most powerful position in the country, where you’ll receive complete immunity.
Did you not understand the point I was making? Leveling charges don’t mean anything when they’re not actually prosecuted. It has been 4 years. He’s running for a position that will grant him complete immunity if he wins. None of those charges will mean anything at all if he becomes president again. He has faced effectively zero consequences for his blatant disregard of the law, his violations of the Constitution, his insurrection, and his treason.
The trials haven’t commenced. If he wins the election they will never conclude and there will be no prosecution. Calling me an idiot doesn’t change the facts.
Thats due process… we can argue about how long prosecution has taken given the overwhelming evidence for a trial, but I don’t think there’s much an arguement that the one with criminal charges wouldn’t want to do away with due process, he’s quite literally stated such.
The excessive delay is my and many other people’s issue. It seems as if they’re hoping something else like his death or election will prevent them from having to set the precedent of a former president getting convicted of a crime. I would never recommend we forego due process.
Its brain-numbing to think there’s people who think the criminal cases are “opinions getting in the way of politics” and disregard entirely the poltical process… while asserting their own opinions onto how the law should work. In a way I think that’s how trump has pushed the envelope so far, Im personally in disbelief that his case wasnt closed ehh maybe 2 years ago, especially in the optics of “being too close to the election”
Anyway that’s my rant, I will go ahead and wish for politcal peace for the all of us
Yeah due process takes time. If we did away with all the appeals available to him he’d already be on trial. But you can’t eliminate the appeals process for Trump without eliminating it for everyone.
Oh yeah, those appeals. He’s going to do everything he can to delay the start of a trial, and then the trials themselves. That’s a given. If he wins the presidential race before a conviction then he’s Scott free. That’s why me and so many other people are frustrated with how slowly the entire process is taking. The amount of elapsed time is excessive, and it seems like they’re trying to punt the actual trials down the road, hoping he dies or wins the Whitehouse so they don’t have to set the precedent of a former president being convicted of a crime.
You make a good point, though, that the process is already long, and that with enough money it seems it can dragged out even longer.
But the alternative, if we rushed through the prices and gave the conservatives the ability to do so every time in return, would be horrific.
That’s what I got from your post and, if I read it right, I think it was spot-on. I’d let 100 Trumps free than let them kangaroo-convict everyone else forever.
91 criminal charges don’t mean shit when the government refuses to prosecute, and let’s you slide right into the most powerful position in the country, where you’ll receive complete immunity.
> Charges 91 felony counts
> some idiot on Lemmy says you aren’t charging anything
Did you not understand the point I was making? Leveling charges don’t mean anything when they’re not actually prosecuted. It has been 4 years. He’s running for a position that will grant him complete immunity if he wins. None of those charges will mean anything at all if he becomes president again. He has faced effectively zero consequences for his blatant disregard of the law, his violations of the Constitution, his insurrection, and his treason.
> is being actively prosecuted
> some idiot on lemmy says he’s not being actively prosecuted
The trials haven’t commenced. If he wins the election they will never conclude and there will be no prosecution. Calling me an idiot doesn’t change the facts.
What do you think criminal charges are?
He’s literally being prosecuted for 91 felonies by governments at the state and federal level.
Yeah we really need to get rid of all of that due process stuff and throw people in prison based on how we feel.
Though it’s possible there may be some flaws in having an authoritarian government that has that power.
Thats due process… we can argue about how long prosecution has taken given the overwhelming evidence for a trial, but I don’t think there’s much an arguement that the one with criminal charges wouldn’t want to do away with due process, he’s quite literally stated such.
The excessive delay is my and many other people’s issue. It seems as if they’re hoping something else like his death or election will prevent them from having to set the precedent of a former president getting convicted of a crime. I would never recommend we forego due process.
Its brain-numbing to think there’s people who think the criminal cases are “opinions getting in the way of politics” and disregard entirely the poltical process… while asserting their own opinions onto how the law should work. In a way I think that’s how trump has pushed the envelope so far, Im personally in disbelief that his case wasnt closed ehh maybe 2 years ago, especially in the optics of “being too close to the election”
Anyway that’s my rant, I will go ahead and wish for politcal peace for the all of us
Definitely not, but they do need to actually start the trials in less than half a decade.
Yeah due process takes time. If we did away with all the appeals available to him he’d already be on trial. But you can’t eliminate the appeals process for Trump without eliminating it for everyone.
Appeals come after conviction, not before trial starts.
Right now the DC case is on hold because Trump is appealing to the Supreme court over the Presidential immunity thing.
And there have been many appeals before the other trials Trump is facing.
Oh yeah, those appeals. He’s going to do everything he can to delay the start of a trial, and then the trials themselves. That’s a given. If he wins the presidential race before a conviction then he’s Scott free. That’s why me and so many other people are frustrated with how slowly the entire process is taking. The amount of elapsed time is excessive, and it seems like they’re trying to punt the actual trials down the road, hoping he dies or wins the Whitehouse so they don’t have to set the precedent of a former president being convicted of a crime.
I suspect your sarcasm didn’t land.
You make a good point, though, that the process is already long, and that with enough money it seems it can dragged out even longer.
But the alternative, if we rushed through the prices and gave the conservatives the ability to do so every time in return, would be horrific.
That’s what I got from your post and, if I read it right, I think it was spot-on. I’d let 100 Trumps free than let them kangaroo-convict everyone else forever.