Mozilla Monitor is shady - eviltoast

Onerep is a privacy monitoring service/ privacy provider that Mozilla partnered with for their Mozilla Monitor service.

Yesterday, Brian Krebs (a cybersecurity journalist) dug into Onerep and found that the CEO is a shady Belarussian. Dimitri Shelest, CEO, of Onerep owns multiple “people searching” websites. Shelest has also been linked to aggressive spam and affiliate marketing emails.

Onerep’s reputation is shady due to their CEO’s multiple conflicts of interest. At worst, Onerep is sucking your personal information. At best, you’re paying for a service that doesn’t do anything. Either way, I would not trust Mozilla Monitor service .

This is a copy and paste from a post I made to firefox@lemmy.ml. I do not no know how to crosspost and I apologise for my mistake a head of time.

  • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    Privacy concerns aside, may I ask what does it have to do with the “Belarussian” nationality of CEO of Onerep? Xenophobia is not allowed. Edit that out.

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      While I agree that the comment by the OP may be construed as Xenophobic, can we agree that it could also just be a part of the information with no ill intent? Based on that, would it be too hard to ask the OP to please edit it out instead of just delivering that as an order? I didn’t think about the potential of seeing that comment as xenophobic until you mentioned it, and realize more people could find it distasteful, but there’s no need to deliver the message in the form of a command.

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        While I agree that the comment by the OP may be construed as Xenophobic, can we agree that it could also just be a part of the information with no ill intent?

        No, there is no possible agreement. If this was an American company or CEO, the nationality would most likely be welcomed in a sorry manner.

        The order I stated was as a moderator. We at Lemmy do not welcome xenophobia and similar elements. OP has not even bothered to reply or comply in almost half a day.

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          I’m not going to downvote your comment, because I strongly believe that we’re all entitled to our own opinion.

          Now, according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, xenophobia is defined as “fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign”. Nowhere does the OP display fear or hatred of any type of group, race, religion, nationality or anything else. The thread is about a CEO that is known for having a horrible track record with the privacy of the data his companies collect.

          Mentioning a nationality alone is not xenophobia.

          Additionally, whether you are a moderator or just a regular user, it does not justify talking to anyone in the way you do.

          It is highly likely that the OP has not complied or replied precisely because of the way you chose to word your comment. If it was me, I would have probably removed the nationality from the post, and would not have replied to you, but we’re all different.

          A moderator moderates. To moderate is to lessen the intensity or extremeness of.

          While I respect the tasks moderators do, because they take the time to maintain toxicity away as much as humanly possible, which is not an easy task, being a moderator does not give anyone the right to treat others with disrespect, regardless of the situation.

          Now, I have no idea of the extent of a moderator’s power in Lemmy instances, but if you kick me out, ban me, or whatever, know that I dont really mind. My reason for being here is wanting to interact with others on productive and respectful conversations, but by no means would that affect me in any significant way. I’m not challenging you, but this is one of the reasons I removed Reddit from my life. Too many moderators with low to no tolerance towards anything they thought was against their rules and acting like dictators.

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            Sorry to pile on but since we’re already splitting hairs: it’s the phrasing that pushes it over into xenophobia. A better way might be for example “the CEO is shady. A Belorussian, [name] is…”. But combined in the same noun phrase - “a shady X” - puts it past whatever fine line we’re debating

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              Oh, I fully agree that the OP could have certainly phrase that better. As I mentioned in my first comment, the way it was phrased can give way to understanding it as a xenophobic comment. My issue is not with the interpretation of the OPs post, but with the way this mod chose to address it. He apparently expects EVERYONE else to be careful how they word their ideas, but that rules applies to everyone but himself. The moment he mentioned “xenophobic”, I realized that this was easily interpreted as such, and the way you suggest it could have been phrased does allow to disregard that possibility. Another way the OP could have said it is: “Dimitri Shelest, a Belorussian with a shady record” or any other way to avoid a potential misinterpretation of his/her comment, and like the moderator, I also believe that everyone would be better served if the OP just modifies it. I still think that, when voicing thoughts and opinions, more than the content itself, it’s all in the delivery.

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            While I respect the tasks moderators do, because they take the time to maintain toxicity away as much as humanly possible, which is not an easy task, being a moderator does not give anyone the right to treat others with disrespect, regardless of the situation.

            OP is disrespecting Belarussians as a whole. I am not.

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              8 months ago

              Wao, OK bro. I can appreciate when a conversation is not going to move forward. Have a nice weekend.