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  • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    While commonly between 80 and 100, finnish sauna temperatures up to 110°c are not unheard of.

    Very hot, but definitely not even close to instant death.

    Really? My whole thesis paper about how humans immediately explode into a million pieces when they reach 100 degrees Celsius is completely ruined. How will I ever recover?

    Anything below 10F is really cold for a human too, and so is anything below -10F what’s your point?

    My point is self evident, you’re willfully ignoring it.

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      10 months ago

      My point is self evident, you’re willfully ignoring it.

      No it isn’t. No I am not. In fact that argument is quite a big sign there’s no actual evidence.
      I am not trying to say Celsius is better than Farenheit. I however don’t agree with your argument that F is somehow more suited to humans.

      It is simply a question of which one you are used to, and have built up an internal system of references to. Just as you feel your references are self evident, I feel the same about Celsius.

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        10 months ago

        I have admittedly expounded at length in this thread already. If my point isn’t obvious, I’m not sure how.

        Maybe I explained it slightly better here.

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        It’s not about the specific numbers, but the range that they cover. It’s about the relation of the scale to our lived experience. Hypothetically, if you wanted to design a temperature scale around our species, you would assign the range of 0-100 to the range that would be the most frequently utilized, because those are the shortest numbers. It’s not an absolute range, but the middle of a bell curve which covers 95% of practical scenarios that people encounter. It doesn’t make any sense to start that range at some arbitrary value like 1000 or -18.

        When the temperature starts to go above the human body temperature, most humans cannot survive in those environments. Thus, they would have little reason to describe such a temperature. Celsius wastes many double digit numbers between 40-100 that are rarely used. Instead, it forces you to use more negative numbers.

        This winter, many days were in the 10s and 20s where I live. Using Celsius would have been marginally more inconvenient in those scenarios, which happen every winter. This is yet another benefit of Fahrenheit, it has a set of base 10 divisions that can be easily communicated, allowing for a convenient level of uncertainty when describing a temperature.

        Generally -40 to 40 are the extremes of livable areas.

        Sure, water is a really good system and it works well.

        And for F that range is -40 to 104. See how you get 64 extra degrees of precision and nearly all of them are double digit numbers? No downside.

        Furthermore F can use its base 10 system to describe useful ranges of temperature such as the 20s, 60s, etc. So you have 144 degrees instead of just 80, and you also have the option to utilize a more broad 16 degree scale that’s also built in.

        You might say that Celsius technically also has an 8 degree scale(10s, 30s), but I would argue that the range of 10 degrees Celsius is too broad to be useful in the same way. In order to scale such that 0C is water freezing and 100C boiling, it was necessary for the units to become larger and thus the 10C shorthand is much less descriptive than the 10F shorthand, at least for most human purposes.

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          10 months ago

          I have admittedly expounded at length in this thread already. If my point isn’t obvious, I’m not sure how.

          It’s because you are trying to prove your subjective experience is better than some other subjective experiences.

          It’s just simply not how it works, it might be best to you, but refusing to accept that others subjective experiences differing from yours are valid is frankly narrow minded.

          You are making subjective arguments and acting like they are objective cold hard facts.