Do you plan on having children? - eviltoast

I feel like I can’t give them the perfect conditions I’d feel a failure. Like most I grew up in bad conditions and absolutely abhor my parents.

On one hand the thought having the knowledge and skills to raise a capable human being is a nice one. On the other there is no guarantee they’d turn out the way I want them to be.

On a second point I am also afraid that I will have to let go of my own life and devote myself to raising them.

A part of me wants to live life. A part of me wants to shape my knowledge into flesh and blood.

I feel this way because I do believe the conditions I grew up in severely limited who I could have become. I’m wishing, if only I was given an optimal environment. I don’t want this for anyone else. If that makes sense.

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    2 years ago

    I spent so much of my life trying to achieve what I have always been told I should have before I try to get a wife and have kids that I’m now at an age where if I had children I would have a significantly increased chances of birth defects. Capitalism has ruined my chances at ever safety passing on my genetics so at most I would adopt.

    To add to this. I refuse to bring a child into what I believe is a doomed society. The best I can think to do is try and save an “unwanted” child from having to suffer as much in this shithole hellscape called the fucking USA.

    All that is left inside me is hate for the people that have done this to my life. I just wanted to get a good paying job, have my own house, and marry someone I could love raise a family with. It was all a lie. Every fucking word. All I can do now is try to survive long enough that I might witness the end of this fucked society.

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    2 years ago

    Sorta related topic to those with fear of raising kids in a dangerous world, when was the world safe to have kids?

    Now it’s wild to think about not too long ago, parents would go in with the mindset not all of their children would make it and that was completely normal. Thankfully now (or for now) our kids won’t loose their legs from a disease like polio or a factory accident, so we don’t need to worry about them being in harms way. I think what is happening currently, is the younger generations are at a time where living conditions are starting to go down in the core and that completely shatters our vision of what our kids future would look like.

    While a dangerous world won’t stop us from having kids, it’ll take a bit for gen z to get used to the prospect of a dangerous future and especially as we mature into adulthood and away from being terminally online. Also the nuclear family isn’t as embedded in heads as time progresses so it’s hard to say what “families” would look like.

    If you feel like you shouldn’t have kids then don’t have kids, its understandable. But don’t be those people who judge others for having children in a dangerous world, cause you and I wouldn’t be here if that was the end all be all decision for humanity.

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    2 years ago

    if people weren’t aware, raising children is used as a political strategy of fascism historically and presently. look up the “quiver full movement”

    whereas on the left there are tons of people that refuse to have children, maybe because it’s a hell world especially for intentionally marginalized folks (who are of course disproportionately leftists). or maybe they are associating overconsumption and overpopulation propaganda with their individual choices. or maybe they hate the institution of marriage and family and it’s state construction too much. idk

    but then, there are literally people who hate children?? and they’re moreso on the left. okay good luck with hating a defenseless and innocent little being i’m sure that’ll bring more unity to our struggle

    point is, the right has a concerted strategy on social reproduction. the left does not, and even sabotages it. the working class is alienated from their own determination of social reproduction. this is a key material concern that has divided along class lines through raw numbers.

    I feel as leftists we need to be much more accommodating to familial struggle. I don’t feel stable to have family either, so to me helping create power to benefit working families is a crucial tactic, regardless if I ever have one myself. we need to be in control of our social reproduction because it’s literally an act of survival, and the people who want to end us know that as well.