Rational Self Interest - eviltoast
  • masquenox@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    It’s rare to see someone going “this you”

    That’s because you are rarely gifted in the “can’t-see-the-bloody-obvious” department.

    Like why oh why would you ignore my question about what qualifies as “taking root”?

    Again… this you?

    Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

    Who brought this piss-poor excuse of quote to a discussion about history? Me or you?

    You want your quote to (somehow) not be fallacious? You describe what the term “take root” means - and do so in a way that (somehow) disqualifies the vast and well-documented history of socialist movements in US history.

    so why don’t you specify your argument.

    I’m not the one with the shit-take, Clyde - you are.

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      8 months ago

      Is “this you” some sort of cro-magnon speak for “was this authored by you”?

      Because I very clearly said in my first reply to you that it’s a well known quote from John Steinbeck? And you can find it plastered everywhere even if you google even just a part of the quote? You missed all that? You’re unaware of the quote?

      https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/328134-john-steinbeck-once-said-that-socialism-never-took-root-in

      But… you think I missed the obvious? :D

      You describe what the term “take root” means

      Life must be hard when you don’t understand metaphors, huh? Or perhaps you do in fact understand it, but you’re now pretending not to, because it was pointed out how moronic it is of you to start criticising the “historical accuracy” of a fucking metaphor.

      For someone who keeps going on about something being “fallacious” (you’re using the word wrong, I really hope this isn’t your first language haha), you sure seem to be dodging a lot of the questions asking you to describe what actually is “fallacious” about the quote (you mean “erroneous”, not “fallacious”, even though I’m sure you don’t understand the difference ahaha).

      But try, please. I’d like to hear more about your take on the issue. So America uses “socialism” as a curse word because of the red scares, yeah? That’s why “socialism never took root”? So those people who are brainwashed to think they are temporarily embarrassed millionaires instead of part of the proletariat, they don’t actually think like that, because… socialism was forcefully suppressed?

      Please, do enlighten me, since you still seem having trouble making an argument in the first place. :)

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        8 months ago

        blah, blah, blah, whine, whine, whine

        The idea is to snort your copium… not try to share it with all and sundry.

        Your quote is shit. Get better ones.

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          8 months ago

          Seems like you’re doing a bit of “ducking and diving”, there, feller.

          Would you like to elaborate on what your argument is?

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            8 months ago

            Which part of…

            Your quote is shit. Get better ones.

            …are you having a hard time comprehending?