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I’m a bit of a sinoboo, but the PRC’s response to this genocide has been severely lacking. You’d think they’d be using this as a clear sign that the US cannot be trusted with so much power. Although it might also be because they know that China openly supporting something turns even “progressive” Western liberals against it.
I also wish they’d do more, but part of me wonders if they’re genuinely scared of what a US response to firmer action might look like
The PRC walks a very fine line of hampering western efforts to ruin the region on one hand and not handing the west ammunition for its war propaganda regarding the planned war against China.
It was China who mediated the peace talks between the Saudis and Iran. It was China which enabled Iran to weather the sanction regime of the US. Recently China started fucking with Israel, by upholding laws it previously ignored in the trade with the zionist entity.
I think yes and no. Of course I’d love to see them go balls to the wall, denounce the whole Zionist entity and start dishing out sanctions and providing material support to the resistance. I know that’s what they’d like to do if it were practical.
But this is China. They are a deeply practical and calculated state, who prioritize the well-being of their people and revolution over all else. And I cannot blame them for not engaging in this arguably reckless manner.
To me this is just China playing the long game once again. I think they realize the occupation cannot last, that the west is crumbling and that the PRC will emerge victorious if they stick the path. So that’s what they’re doing.
Reeeevolution had good points as well
I found an Odysee link in your post. Here are links to the same location on an alternative frontend that protects your privacy:
If even China doesn’t approve of your tactics to fight “insurgents”, you might be doing something wrong.
China’s “tactics” have been to provide education, jobs, opportunities, infrastructure and an increased standard of living. It’s the West whose tactics are to indiscriminately bomb and terrorize civilians, destroy infrastructure and starve out populations.
actually incredible that liberals like you think that China’s response to fighting insurgents has been more extreme than the west’s. or have you already forgotten amerikkka’s adventures in west and central asia, let alone all the shit its internal security services do on its home soil (most of which consists of entrapping lonely brown boys)?
I cannot make proper sense of what you’re trying to say. Your ability to make semantically coherent sentences seems to not have been very well developed yet. That’s ok though, my communication skills aren’t the best either. Which is apparent from the fact that you seem to think that I am somehow defending China’s foreign policies.
So, let me explain in more concrete terms.
China has been fighting the Taiwanese, the Ughurs, the Tibetans and whatnot in some of the most inhumane ways possible. They are generally considered masters of genocide. One of histories biggest genocides, the great leap forward, was commited on their own people. I’m not entirely sure if you can really call it a “genocide” but the numbers are what matters. 40 to 70 million deaths.
Now this same China basically says that what Israel is doing to Palestine is bad. They’re giving palestine’s fight to defend themselves legitimacy. In this case I think that’s the highest form of legitimacy you can get. It’s basically the worst genocidal maniac telling you that the genocide on your people is wrong. You might explain this as a pot and kettle story, maybe it’s more “Israel bad” and less “palestine good”, but this is how I explained it.
was typing quickly and meant “more” instead of “less” clearly. so sure you “owned” me there. regardless, calling GLF a genocide is quite funny, never actually seen a liberal do that so thanks for that. just curious, do you think every famine in history is a genocide or…?
The only thing I’m liberal with is the word genocide, but yes, if famine is caused due to intentional, calculated policies and aimed against a specific people like the great leap forward or the Irish potato famine, than it may be considered genocide.
I cannot make proper sense of what you’re trying to say. That’s ok though, my communication skills aren’t the best either. Which is apparent from the fact that you seem to think that I am somehow defending China’s foreign policies and discarding America’s genocides.
So, let me explain in more concrete terms.
China has been fighting the Taiwanese, the Ughurs, the Tibetans and whatnot in some of the most inhumane ways possible. They are generally considered masters of genocide. One of histories biggest genocides, the great leap forward, was commited on their own people. I’m not entirely sure if you can really call it a “genocide” but the numbers are what matters. 40 to 70 million deaths.
Now this same China basically says that what Israel is doing to Palestine is bad. They’re giving palestine’s fight to defend themselves legitimacy. In this case I think that’s the highest form of legitimacy you can get. It’s basically the worst genocidal maniac telling you that the genocide on your people is wrong. You might explain this as a pot and kettle story, maybe it’s more “Israel bad” and less “palestine good”, but this is how I explained it.
America on the other hand is not speaking up for Palestine, so it’s of no use to compare their trigger happiness to Israel right now eventhough the comparisons are easily made.
And by the way, I’m tend to be more for China these days than for the USA, but there’s a lot of nuance either way.
China has been fighting the Taiwanese, the Ughurs, the Tibetans and whatnot in some of the most inhumane ways possible. They are generally considered masters of genocide.
Wow this is the first time I’m hearing about this. Can you tell me more?
Gotta love how they come up with such wacky titles. “Masters of Genocide” sounds like an overly edgy (or honest-to-life American) 80s action figure line.
Funny how they say “masters of genocide” like they don’t live in a nation that’s part of a geopolitical group that has killed billions and has actually engaged in many genocides throughout History.
Pretty much. Most if not all of the Anglo-settler colonies (US, Canada, Australia for sure) are literally ongoing scenes of crimes against humanity in this regard, with millions of skeletons in their closets each.
absolute bullshit lmao, don’t even bother. Tibet has been freed by Mao, Uyghur genocide is literally propaganda (the CIA admitted it was all a lie to destabilize China) and the Taiwanese? They haven’t even messed with Taiwan (or should I say US-occupied China) and I’m also pretty sure most Taiwanese have a neutral to positive opinion about the PRC.
Wow, I never heard of the great leap forward before. Do you have a source for the 40 to 70 million deaths?
aaah too bad they got banned
damn i wanted to see what they replied to me lol
you can still see it from federation, if you click the small colorful icon next to their username
ah ty
Now it’s 40-70million? 3 years ago or so it was like 5-45 million
yeah well blame covid for the inflation!
sounds about right lmao
why did you reply to me, delete the comment, edit it, undelete it, and then post the same comment with 3 extra lines on the bottom?
Technical issues… I deleted it, changed my mind, but it didn’t seem to undelete to me. Apparently it did though.
