This is a fallacy. You find one area in which the two presidents are the same, and you extrapolate that into saying they’re exactly the same in all areas. It’s not a bad faith attack or trolling. It’s just the result of someone whose thoughts are too simple to grasp the fact that people are similar in some ways and different in other ways. It’s the thought process of someone who just doesn’t get nuance.
Okay, well if we agree that Biden and Trump are different in other areas, then what is even the point of this comic?
Let’s imagine that Anna and Peter are competing for the Vancouver regional tapdancing championship. They both had really good performances, and now the judges have to make a decision. Is Anna’s flawless execution of traditional tap integrated with the forgotten styles of the past worthy of winning, or does Peter’s bold new interpretation of an electronic tap genre deserve to take the gold?
No matter who the judges pick to win the regional tap championship, people in the middle east will still be bombed by US drones. Are you going to make a comic about how the tap championship is meaningless because it won’t make a difference in the middle east?
The tap contest is like the US election because, as you argue, they both have no bearing on outcomes in the middle east. Therefore, they’re irrelevant. If a tap contest won’t change the situation in the middle east, don’t make comics complaining about the tap contest’s effect on the middle east. If an election won’t change the situation in the middle east, don’t make comics complaining about the election’s effect on the middle east. It’s not relevant to the discussion. It should be relevant, I agree with you there, but as you point out, this election it simply isn’t. If we want to improve the situation in the middle east, we need to do more direct action ourselves, not vote for it. So stop bringing voting into the conversation about the middle east.
This is a comic opposed to those who claim that The Best System in The World™ is that we must perpetually vote for the lesser of two evils, when both choices are still unacceptably and horrifically evil. Maybe your party and your system … kinda suck? Dontcha think?
It’s also a comic opposed to centrist and conservative Democrats and other status quo warriors who rail against leftists and progressives while silencing us and calling us russian bots and trolls, instead of actually listening to what we have to say. I’ve talked to a lot of other anarchists and socialists on a regular basis, and we’re fucking sick of it. If we’re not even allowed to pressure the sitting president to do better, then what even is the point? You centrists kept repeating the lie that you’re not as cultlike as Republicans in 2020 to get our votes – and then every time a post like this is made or an issue is raised, you get defensive of your genocidal maniac and come out with guns blazing. Many of you even reported me to my moderator/instance admin. Thankfully, this is a leftist instance where your shit isn’t tolerated, unlike right-wing neoliberal instances like lemm.ee or lemmy.world.
I’m an anarcho-communist who does direct action. I’m so far to the left, Hexbear banned me thinking I was a troll, because they couldn’t imagine someone with views as left as me. I’m a soulist, I want to destroy consensus reality because it’s white supremacist. If you want to have a pissing contest about who’s more leftist, fine. I bet you don’t even want to abolish consensus reality. Yeah, you criticise Joe Biden (as I do), but I struggle to believe that you’ve criticised the actual systems of realism that perpetuate capitalism and genocide.
You’re so full of yourself, it’s pathetic. I bet you believe your own bullshit. You’re the first person I’m blocking in this thread because you’re such a foolish liar.
Note to mods or anyone who thinks this is too harsh: Please look up exocrinous in the https://lemmy.dbzer0.com modlog. They’re a known transphobe and troll, and if they are being honest about being an ancom, then I don’t know of any anarchists who would welcome them into our community, and that’s the truth. You can’t oppress and exclude entire swaths of LGBTQ+ people and still remain anarchist.
I do believe they’re being honest about being banned from hexbear, though. They’re also banned from blahaj and many other instances. I’d recommend pre-emptively blocking this user.
Note to mods or anyone who thinks this is too harsh: Please look up exocrinous in the https://lemmy.dbzer0.com modlog.
So I looked at the modlog, and it says I was banned from gay@lemmy.world for being a “narcissistic psychopath”. Can you confirm you’re asking the mods to attack me for having NPD and being a “psychopath”?
I’m not a transphobe. You’re repeating accusations that it’s transphobic of me to identify as a xenogender, because xenogenders “make light of real trans people’s struggles”.
And yes, it is pathetic that I’m so full of myself. I know. I have narcissistic personality disorder. People tell me all day that I’m pathetic for having this mental disorder. You’re just one more person insulting me for my mental health.
Lol funny seeing the modlogs. Seems like you evaded bans with alt accounts like “DroneRights” and have been banned by startrek.website, hexbear.net, lemmy.blahaj.zone, lemmy.dbzer0.com, lemmy.world etc for transphobia, enbyphobia, right wing takes, harrassment among others.
Weird lemmy unity. I can’t see what’s been banned but judging by your takes here it’s probably reasonable.
Nah, the startrek.website admins are cool with me. We had a misunderstanding 6 months ago but we worked it all out. That’s why I’m commenting from a startrek.website account.
If we’re not even allowed to pressure the sitting president to do better, then what even is the point?
that’s not what this comic is doing, this comic is equivocating voting for Trump and Biden…
at least with biden it’s possible to pressure him to do something, with dictator trump we get a genocide in Ukraine, Palestine, and america…
Look, me and my partner are trans, and it lives in the US. We’re terrified it’s going to be killed by the Republican party during their next presidency. Conditions are eerily similar to 1920s Germany and we know our history. It’s a refugee. I’m trying to get enough money to move it to my country, but I’m broke. I need more time. I want a progressive US president as much as anyone, I want to avert this shit. But if Biden wins the primary, that’s 4 more years I have to save my partner’s life. This is a matter of immediate life or death to me. That’s 4 more years every trans person has to get out before it gets worse. I feel bad for people in the middle east, but my views on which president to elect don’t affect them. It affects my partner. I don’t agree with this view of “let’s ignore trans people and focus on the middle east”. The lesser evil means I don’t have to grieve my love.
You might not understand this election actually mattering if you don’t have any trans loved ones.
Nuance is very important even during a genocide. For example, you chose not to see nuance, and you didn’t notice that I’m not american. You saw what you wanted to see because you were angry. Anyone who disagrees is the enemy and must hold the identity of the enemy, in your mind. You’re thinking just like the kinds of people who commit genocides. They don’t believe in nuance, they attack because they see the enemy everywhere.
Congratulations on devaluing the word genocide until it is meaningless. It doesn’t mean a lot of civilians died, it means destroying a protected group, which is not happening. Collateral damage does not a genocide make.
This is a fallacy. You find one area in which the two presidents are the same, and you extrapolate that into saying they’re exactly the same in all areas. It’s not a bad faith attack or trolling. It’s just the result of someone whose thoughts are too simple to grasp the fact that people are similar in some ways and different in other ways. It’s the thought process of someone who just doesn’t get nuance.
Except I’m not doing this at all. You are a fool arguing with a strawperson.
Okay, well if we agree that Biden and Trump are different in other areas, then what is even the point of this comic?
Let’s imagine that Anna and Peter are competing for the Vancouver regional tapdancing championship. They both had really good performances, and now the judges have to make a decision. Is Anna’s flawless execution of traditional tap integrated with the forgotten styles of the past worthy of winning, or does Peter’s bold new interpretation of an electronic tap genre deserve to take the gold?
No matter who the judges pick to win the regional tap championship, people in the middle east will still be bombed by US drones. Are you going to make a comic about how the tap championship is meaningless because it won’t make a difference in the middle east?
The tap contest is like the US election because, as you argue, they both have no bearing on outcomes in the middle east. Therefore, they’re irrelevant. If a tap contest won’t change the situation in the middle east, don’t make comics complaining about the tap contest’s effect on the middle east. If an election won’t change the situation in the middle east, don’t make comics complaining about the election’s effect on the middle east. It’s not relevant to the discussion. It should be relevant, I agree with you there, but as you point out, this election it simply isn’t. If we want to improve the situation in the middle east, we need to do more direct action ourselves, not vote for it. So stop bringing voting into the conversation about the middle east.
This is a comic opposed to those who claim that The Best System in The World™ is that we must perpetually vote for the lesser of two evils, when both choices are still unacceptably and horrifically evil. Maybe your party and your system … kinda suck? Dontcha think?
It’s also a comic opposed to centrist and conservative Democrats and other status quo warriors who rail against leftists and progressives while silencing us and calling us russian bots and trolls, instead of actually listening to what we have to say. I’ve talked to a lot of other anarchists and socialists on a regular basis, and we’re fucking sick of it. If we’re not even allowed to pressure the sitting president to do better, then what even is the point? You centrists kept repeating the lie that you’re not as cultlike as Republicans in 2020 to get our votes – and then every time a post like this is made or an issue is raised, you get defensive of your genocidal maniac and come out with guns blazing. Many of you even reported me to my moderator/instance admin. Thankfully, this is a leftist instance where your shit isn’t tolerated, unlike right-wing neoliberal instances like lemm.ee or lemmy.world.
I’m an anarcho-communist who does direct action. I’m so far to the left, Hexbear banned me thinking I was a troll, because they couldn’t imagine someone with views as left as me. I’m a soulist, I want to destroy consensus reality because it’s white supremacist. If you want to have a pissing contest about who’s more leftist, fine. I bet you don’t even want to abolish consensus reality. Yeah, you criticise Joe Biden (as I do), but I struggle to believe that you’ve criticised the actual systems of realism that perpetuate capitalism and genocide.
[x] doubt
You’re so full of yourself, it’s pathetic. I bet you believe your own bullshit. You’re the first person I’m blocking in this thread because you’re such a foolish liar.
Note to mods or anyone who thinks this is too harsh: Please look up exocrinous in the https://lemmy.dbzer0.com modlog. They’re a known transphobe and troll, and if they are being honest about being an ancom, then I don’t know of any anarchists who would welcome them into our community, and that’s the truth. You can’t oppress and exclude entire swaths of LGBTQ+ people and still remain anarchist.
I do believe they’re being honest about being banned from hexbear, though. They’re also banned from blahaj and many other instances. I’d recommend pre-emptively blocking this user.
So I looked at the modlog, and it says I was banned from gay@lemmy.world for being a “narcissistic psychopath”. Can you confirm you’re asking the mods to attack me for having NPD and being a “psychopath”?
I’m not a transphobe. You’re repeating accusations that it’s transphobic of me to identify as a xenogender, because xenogenders “make light of real trans people’s struggles”.
And yes, it is pathetic that I’m so full of myself. I know. I have narcissistic personality disorder. People tell me all day that I’m pathetic for having this mental disorder. You’re just one more person insulting me for my mental health.
dude, you’re being an ass.
Yeah, it’s definitely me who’s out of line here /s
Gimme a break
I believe this much lmao, but I think it’s more for being a shitlib than a troll
No, I was banned specifically for comments that gender neutral pronouns exist and that whiteness is a social construct.
Lol funny seeing the modlogs. Seems like you evaded bans with alt accounts like “DroneRights” and have been banned by startrek.website, hexbear.net, lemmy.blahaj.zone, lemmy.dbzer0.com, lemmy.world etc for transphobia, enbyphobia, right wing takes, harrassment among others.
Weird lemmy unity. I can’t see what’s been banned but judging by your takes here it’s probably reasonable.
My takes that we should protect trans people? Well sure, it’s along the same lines. I got banned from some of those places for being trans.
Nah, the startrek.website admins are cool with me. We had a misunderstanding 6 months ago but we worked it all out. That’s why I’m commenting from a startrek.website account.
that’s not what this comic is doing, this comic is equivocating voting for Trump and Biden…
at least with biden it’s possible to pressure him to do something, with dictator trump we get a genocide in Ukraine, Palestine, and america…
Shit yourself
so you’re just a straight up troll? gotcha
Look, me and my partner are trans, and it lives in the US. We’re terrified it’s going to be killed by the Republican party during their next presidency. Conditions are eerily similar to 1920s Germany and we know our history. It’s a refugee. I’m trying to get enough money to move it to my country, but I’m broke. I need more time. I want a progressive US president as much as anyone, I want to avert this shit. But if Biden wins the primary, that’s 4 more years I have to save my partner’s life. This is a matter of immediate life or death to me. That’s 4 more years every trans person has to get out before it gets worse. I feel bad for people in the middle east, but my views on which president to elect don’t affect them. It affects my partner. I don’t agree with this view of “let’s ignore trans people and focus on the middle east”. The lesser evil means I don’t have to grieve my love.
You might not understand this election actually mattering if you don’t have any trans loved ones.
Talking about “nuance” when your government is committing a genocide in real time lmao
Nuance is very important even during a genocide. For example, you chose not to see nuance, and you didn’t notice that I’m not american. You saw what you wanted to see because you were angry. Anyone who disagrees is the enemy and must hold the identity of the enemy, in your mind. You’re thinking just like the kinds of people who commit genocides. They don’t believe in nuance, they attack because they see the enemy everywhere.
Congratulations on devaluing the word genocide until it is meaningless. It doesn’t mean a lot of civilians died, it means destroying a protected group, which is not happening. Collateral damage does not a genocide make.