UK Labour are too Tory for me. - eviltoast

UK Labour are too Tory for me.
I’ve threatened that they’ve lost my vote. (edit)
On LGBTQIA, specifically trans rights.
On their plans for the NHS.
On their plans for health and wealth inequalities in the UK.
On their plans for the relationship the UK has with Europe.
They have to be less Tory to get my vote back.
It’s not acceptable that to not vote Tory, we have to settle for what they offer. They assume their position is acceptable.
If they correct their position, I’ll reconsider
@uk_politics

    • ThePyroPython@feddit.uk
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      1 year ago

      Mate, we’re under a first past the post system, tactical voting matters to get the most damaging political force, i.e. the Tories, out of power and by a significant majority.

      Anything remotely left of the Tories is better, even if it is Centre Centre Centre calling itself Left Labour.

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        1 year ago

        At this point lib Dems are probably left of labour with their policies, given labours recent downturn

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          1 year ago

          No, this is just untrue.

          They are a centre-right party. They effectively represent Tories who didn’t want Brexit. They may talk a big game and make big promises, such as UBI. But they also made promises when they went into coalition with the Conservative party, and once in power they fell in line.

        • frankPodmore@slrpnk.net
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          1 year ago

          Just incredible that the Lib Dems are still trying this argument.

          Apart from the reality of their platforms, Ed Davey was literally a cabinet member in a Tory government and was knighted for this service by a Tory Prime Minister.

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            Apart from the reality of their platforms, their Ed Davey was literally a cabinet member in a Tory government and was knighted for this service by a Tory Prime Minister.

            Well the fact that when the Tories got a majority of their own they reversed most of what he did in office should be in an indication that he’s not actually one of them.

            • frankPodmore@slrpnk.net
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              1 year ago

              So his record is five years of voting for every Tory policy and zero long term achievements?

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            1 year ago

            Right, so it should be alarming that labour has worse policies than that, right?

            • frankPodmore@slrpnk.net
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              1 year ago

              IDK what metric you’re using for ‘worse’. Sure would be alarming if they did, but they don’t.

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      1 year ago

      You students tried that in 2015 and got Megagiga Tory and in 2016 we left the EU. In 2017 and 2019 when the Lib Dems campaigned to stop Brexit and rejoin it was “they took rrrrr students loans!”. 🙄

      So yes, fuck them. Oh and whilst we’re at it let’s also hand power to two parties that will keep us out of the EU because they are scared of their voter base. Good job 👍.

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        I’m not a student, but let me ask you this as a supposed predecessor, why didn’t you ensure younger generations didn’t have to worry about politicians lying without consequence?

        Oh and don’t forget the Lib Dems are partially responsible for this mess. It may surprise you but I’m old enough to remember that. They’re an untrustworthy party and no one owes them a vote because some person on the Internet wants to whitewash their recent history and guilt trip us into supporting them.