Will the real JC please stand up. - eviltoast
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    9 months ago

    Anything that says IPA on it I tend to like but really my favorite beer is free, so just whatever you want to get me. It is the Man from Earth. Not really a great movie. When he said John T. Party from Boston a little part of me died.

    You know what one really annoying thing, amongst many, with that movie is? There are connections between the Buddha and the Gospel Jesus. However, with the sole exception of the Golden Rule, all the details are biographical. Which hints really strongly that it is just a typical way the human mind likes a story since presumably if there was a connection between the Gospel writers and Buddhism they would have his teachings instead of his biography.

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      9 months ago

      Nah that movie was great for what it was. Literally one set and some of the acting was really bad but the writing makes up for all of it. Anybody who appreciates dialogue in Cinema should check it out if you haven’t already.

      I don’t understand your point trying to disprove connections between Buddha and Jesus. Jesus’ part of the Bible does have his teachings. If Jesus and the Bible were real, the “biography” is basically a supercut of all the times he learned a lesson, taught lessons to others or performed miracles (sometimes the last two are the same). So I don’t understand how you’re saying his “biography” doesn’t have his teachings. But even without my explanation, I don’t see a 1+1 equation from what you said.

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        Nah that movie was great for what it was. Literally one set and some of the acting was really bad but the writing makes up for all of it. Anybody who appreciates dialogue in Cinema should check it out if you haven’t already.

        Ok you know what? I am going to walk that back. If you enjoyed it I am happy for you. I didn’t. And that is okay.

        I don’t understand your point trying to disprove connections between Buddha and Jesus. Jesus’ part of the Bible does have his teachings.

        Hmm perhaps you can provide a few?

        But even without my explanation, I don’t see a 1+1 equation from what you said.

        A man was in heaven and came to earth to help humanity. Before his birth a magical man tells the parents that he will be great. He leaves home a bit before age 30, wanders in the wilderness for about 2.5 years. Encounters a being with red skin and horns on his head who tempts him three times. The man outwits this avatar of temptation. The man comes to a place where people have gathered and he gives a short speech which becomes one of the most significant speeches of all time laying out his entire philosophy. Of those that listened some became his first followers.

        He travels around with 12 followers. He fights with the religious and political figures of his day. Befriends criminals and the outcasts of society. Has a difficult experience at the temple one day and is betrayed by one of his men. He spends his last day telling people to forgive the one who killed him and speaking to his youngest follower about taking over. The man dies and three days later the body is moved.

        I am of course telling you the story of the Buddha recorded in the 6th century BCE.

        Now there are parallels which I am sure you see. The thing is I don’t see teaching parallels. So if the Gospel writers were familiar with the story of the Buddha I find it weird that they were familiar with any of the teachings of the man. Nothing Jesus taught was groundbreaking, it was all available in earlier Jewish works. It would be pretty impressive if Jesus had started for example talking about the Wheel of Becoming or the eightfold path.

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          9 months ago

          Okay thanks for explaining it further. I misunderstood what you said and therefore you misunderstood something I said. I’m definitely dumb and you are probably right about their teachings not being similar. I would say the golden rule is enough for me but I can definitely see why it would feel dumb for someone more educated in the subject. That happens a lot in movies and even more in TV

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              Well I didn’t understand you were saying Jesus didn’t teach Buddha’s teachings. I thought you were saying the Bible didn’t have Jesus’ own teachings. Use of the word “him” in various places is where my confusion came from. That’s what qualifies me as stupid. The only thing we disagree on if whether Man from Earth is good.