Baldur’s Gate 3 is a “mega hit” that Hasbro expects to pay dividends for years
Read: We’re just a clueless corporation but we intend to bleed this thing dry to pay for our yatchs.
Well hopefully it means more awesome Larian games though.
Divinity was amazing, literally downloading baldurs gate to play with the wife for valentines as we speak, so I love them.
But it probably won’t, it probably just means shitty magic crossovers and other horrible nonsense.
I doubt Larian will return to D&D for the next game.
Give them Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic and the internet will go berserk
Can we give them Dragon Age, because BioWare doesn’t seem to know what it’s doing anymore.
At this point Bioware is just a skinsuit worn by EA. Once the skinsuit gets too stinky they will dispose of it and buy a new studio to make a fresh suit.
If someone makes a new kotor game but uses the same extremely janky DND 3.x rules I am going to search my house for the monkey’s paw. That would make me so mad.
Please don’t use the money’s paw. It will almost definitely change the game system to FATAL, and I do not, under any circumstances, want to roll for Zaalbar’s anal circumference.
Don’t worry, they will go full HERO System :)
All of this!
Wizards of the Coast owner Hasbro, which says Larian’s “mega hit” RPG, having driven around $90 million in revenue in the last year, is a good sign for more video games to come from the D&D license.
I don’t know them, but this seems like they have understood that D&D is beneficial to their purse.
Hasbro wants more games but that doesn’t say Larian wants or has been contracted for more. It’d be dumb for Larian to at least not make an expansion. Though I do understand expanding the level cap is super difficult and a LOT of spells will need to be limited in scope.
Larian said they were releasing a complete game. I honestly hope they don’t release an expansion. The ending was great, and I don’t know where you go after. An expansion past the ending would almost cheapen the whole game for me. After a huge build up to the fight of the netherbrain. It wouldn’t feel right to continue after that.
And only getting to 12th level felt fine. I don’t think it needed to go higher. Mine abs my partner’s characters were beasts even at level 12. So it doesn’t feel like it’s necessary.
Why is level cap hard to expand?
In short, at 7th to 9th level spells shit get stupid really fast.
In any case, the sweet spot of the 5th edition ruleset(which Larian vastly improved upon) is levels 5 to 10. Under that and you’re too squishy, over that and you start getting into the plane shifting and just outright death spells.
the spells that higher levels unlock get into crazy territory thats hard to implement, balance
We’ll just have Elminster in Fortnite.
God i hope Larian never touches dnd again, they can do way better.
Y’all ready for a decade of moderately to incredibly broken, brain dead, pushed out the door for a quick buck D&D games?
At the top, there will be DnD, the trading card game
They’ve already released Magic: The Gathering sets based on D&D.
On Baldur’s gate specifically even
BG3 the trading card game
FTFY
People seem to forget their gaming history. William SRD has an entire channel dedicated to incredibly broken, brain dead, pushed out the door for a quick buck D&D games.
I watch every episode of W.SRD, that’s the only enjoyment I forsee for the future of Hasbro D&D video games
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FUCK YEAH! START THE LAWNMOWER!!!
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It’s going to be like that time that GTA3 was a huge success, and a million shitty and broken “open world” games came out (Excluding Simpsons Hit and Run that game was great)
Or when WOW was a huge success and we were buried with a million shitty and broken MMO WOW clones.
Tale as old as tiiimeee.
You mean Dark Alliance?
I don’t think they understand.
What made Baldurs Gate 3 great wasn’t DnD it was Larian. Same for BG 1/2 and old BioWare.
You can’t just create that level of care by pumping out lots of games, they’ll probably fill them with MTX or GaaS bullshit to try and get more money from it as well.
The suits don’t understand anything. They see game making money and they’re like “more games equals more money”
The shovelware tsunami is imminent
Better yet, they see MTX games making money and D&D games making money, so they think combining the two will make even more money. I hope they’re wrong.
Of course they don’t understand.
You can absolutely license a crap load of games and be successful with it. Games Workshop does that with 40k. They haven’t had much that’s as huge as BG3, but the generally are reasonable games. Some are garbage mobile games, but a lot aren’t that as well.
I doubt Hasbro/WotC can actually handle licensing out IP as successfully as GW, but it’s totally possible to do.
Concur. Larian is a breath of fresh air in a field saturated with pay-to-win, monetized, microtransaction nonsense. I’m not convinced they haven’t traveled across dimensions to restore fun and sanity to a hobby that has been all but ruined by greed and laziness.
Yep. I’d go so far as to argue the game is vastly worse than it could be because it’s dnd. If it was shadowrun? World? Nobilis? Hell, a high schoolers first BESM campaign? It would have been so much better.
Lmao without Larian’s dedication I doubt they’re gonna get anywhere close to BG3 in the future
Incoming Hasbro enshittifying every DnD game from now on with microtransactions and day 1 dlc.
This is why we can’t have nice things. When they come along, the parent company strangles it for profit.
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Loved BG3. but it was the hit it was because it was done by people who love the D&D world and didn’t attempt to live up to any specific monetary goals, nor did it rush out to try and beat some arbitrary deadline. it was done in the old style of development, by a relatively small team over long periods of time to showcase their labour of love.
given the history of D&D the company itself and it’s more recent copyright monetization and attacking the playerbase for profit, I cannot see them pumping out other games that are anywhere CLOSE to what Larian produced.
Wee’re going to get a whole lot of bullshit shovelware trying to ride BG3’s excellence.
this is why we can’t have nice things :(
Yeah, the reason BG3 was so good was because unlike Hasbro and WoTC, they love the Forgotten Realms, and they love video games. If either weren’t true, it would be an awful game.
Sigh…just more MBA assholes that don’t understand squat about the industry they lead.
Oh god, they’re gonna Fox it up. Listen: dozens of cool shows came out circa 2000, did pretty darn well, and were thrown in the fucking garbage for not being The Simpsons. That show’s firehose of money funded brilliant new productions - most of which were cancelled for not instantly creating an equal firehose of money.
This is how Firefly, Futurama, and Family Guy were shitcanned despite intense demand. But games don’t get revivals or movies the same way. They can’t be pulled back together with a writer and some key actors. Game franchises just die. Their original creators get scattered to the winds, and the rights get tangled up in a heartbeat, so anything with the same name is just an empty brand and inadvisable hope.
Baldur’s Gate 3, in so many ways, was a miracle among miracles. And these geniuses are liable to expect that, every time, in ways that make life hell for any studio whose quality is merely exceptional.
Best we can hope for in game franchises are games that are made by the creators of X, but after Back 4 Blood I’m incredibly wary of anything like that
Wow, did Back 4 Blood have Left 4 Dead lineage? I assumed it was a straight ripoff.
Like 3 developers, and they based some of their advertising on “from the creators of Left 4 Dead” or some such phrasing. It is effectively a straight ripoff, but significantly worse
Futurama is currently in the middle of its 8th season.
Family Guy is in the middle of its 22nd season.
Firefly had a geek royalty showrunner who turned out to be a real creep.
Any other examples?
Both Futurama and Family Guy were cancelled early in their runs in 2002/2003 and only revived years later. Firefly was cancelled around the same time and just never revived.
Firefly did get a movie.
As mentioned.
Walk me through why you think that’s relevant.
Pls no shovelware
Its on my list, and I’ve played Solasta (loved it, but they level higher than BG3 does).
However, I think Pathfinder games do better Legendary adventures. The characters attain godlike strength in the end whereas D&D 5ed is not very good at that so far in the Video game space.
What ever happened to games like NeverWinter Nights where you could literally do a raid on the hells themselves or Neverwinter Nights 2 where you can make an attack on the God of the Dead’s Domain.
Developers complain about how hard it its to do spells and powers past a certain level and yet their predecessors still found a way to do it even if they had to make certain limitations on them.
Still, I am glad to see BG3 a thing even if the characters are weak compared to the original ones from BG2.
A game of the scale of BG3 in the PF2E ruleset would be so fucking amazing.
Couldn’t make those campaigns in the 5e ruleset, not well at least. Pathfinder and even older editions of dnd are much better designed.
Without Larian and without the writers of the core books yeah I’m sure it’ll be great totally won’t do a 4th edition again.
Didnt they say they were looking to sell D&D like last week?
Stock price manipulation.
That turned out to be incorrect. From what I remember:
It was one news outlet in China, unconfirmed by anyone else, and denied by all parties mentioned as involved. It could have been malicious, but it also could have been a misunderstanding / mistranslation.
Damp D
I hope theres a new mtg game. They were all fun to me.
With MTG arena they don’t really have incentive to make more games. Which is a shame because Duels of the Planeswalkers was fun
That was the shit. I worked so damn hard to beat that game and get the sick headgear for my Xbox avatar
Naw if they could make arena more playable to everyone i think they coukd have another winner on their plate
I would prefer to see something that uses the IP that isn’t just a card game port. Something new. If MMOs weren’t all (Except for destiny I guess) hamstring by their own 90’s era hotbar mechanics, I’d think an MMO would be cool.
it’s a shame they removed planeswalkers from consoles, i enjoyed playing offline with a controller
Wish I could get into this game, but I’m so done with turn based fighting. I can’t take another game with that mechanic
Turns are optional, just hold shift+space to turn them off on pc.
That seems like it would make for chaotic fights. I’ll have to save and see what happens lol
That’s very weird, but i do feel the same way about the 5e system. I can’t finish bg3 despite seeing the quality of it due to the shitty base system. I’ll never get why they did dnd. Larian could do so much better, they could have picked up any ip they wanted.
