Would a recognized Palestine help end the Gaza conflict? - eviltoast

Although Germany does not consider Palestine a country, a majority of the world’s states — 139 out of a total of 193 — at the United Nations do. What’s significant this time, though, is that recognition is apparently being reconsidered by the US, a country that has previously vetoed almost every attempt to make Palestine a country.

The UK also seems to be thinking about it even though in the past, the country has been just as opposed to the move as the US.

  • hitmyspot@aussie.zone
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    9 months ago

    Isn’t Israel’s settler policy of recent decades purposely designed to undermine a two state solution?

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        9 months ago

        oh I dont know about that, the UN has done a fairly passable job - it’s been far more effective then the League of Nations that preceded it.

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          9 months ago

          I’m not a huge fan of the UN, but I’m also convinced we would have had a nuclear war by now if it didn’t exist to allow communication and mediation between the world’s governments.

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            9 months ago

            I like em because aside from the votes doing nothing functional it shows where countries allegiances truly lie.

            Many Western countries got exposed for being controlled by the Zionist lobby when they didn’t vote for the ceasefire.

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    9 months ago

    Not much point in recognising the PA when it doesn’t even rule over Gaza, is there? I mean, it should happen anyway, but probably limited effect on both Israel and Hamas…

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    9 months ago

    I fully believe anyone that claims to support a 2 state solution but doesn’t recognise pestine as a state just supports Israel but knows they can’t advocate for genocide.

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    At this point recognition would serve to finalize the alienation of Palestinians from their chance to gain democratic rights over the government which authors most of the laws they have to live by in practicality

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          Wow that is a dumb article, even for a medium article. It seems confused about why indigenous people would refuse a settler colony in the middle of their homeland. That’s like saying the Native Americans refused a two state solution with the US while colonists were moving in and setting up shop. You think if a commission of UK and the France decided to give 1/3 of Texas to the Mexicans without even having any Texans in the commission that Texas would just be cool with it? No, they’d fight it to the last man, even if they weren’t as oppressed as Palestinians in Gaza.

          EDIT: Also the 2000 Camp David Summit was extremely one-sided, purposefully so. Even a negotiator from the Clinton said admitted it was more of Israel’s fault than the Palestinians. In 2006, Shlomo Ben-Ami, then foreign minister of Israel, stated on Democracy Now! that “Camp David was not the missed opportunity for the Palestinians, and if I were a Palestinian I would have rejected Camp David, as well. This is something I put in the book. But Taba is the problem. The Clinton parameters are the problem”.

          I couldn’t read the last one but it as also probably terrible and not well researched.

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          9 months ago

          how is any palestinian nation meant to negotiate with zionist israel? this isnt something we are going to solve for them.

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      9 months ago

      If me and a bunch of my mates declared the place you live an independent country that we rule over and you don’t get a say. Then when you push back say “2 state solution, where we still own your house” are you going to accept that?