Tipping culture npcs - eviltoast
  • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.com
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    9 months ago

    Currently servers are currently paid minimum $2.13/hour.

    No they are not.

    https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped

    More than half of states have well above those values. And states with higher populations(NY, CA, etc…) tend to have higher values on the DOL chart. The vast majority of servers are NOT paid 2.13/hr from their employer.

    I currently live in AZ, where it’s 11.35 pre-tip and 14.35 post-tip. Nobody here needs tips to make minimum wage… A table of 4 that’s in the restaurant and takes 20 minutes of a server’s time can pay literally 1 dollar in tips and the wait staff will be making $15/hr. Wait staff here STILL complain about tips, and there’s STILL pin pads demanding 30%.

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      9 months ago

      23 states with wage at $3/hour or under, 26 states under $4/hour, 29 states under $5/hour, and 38 states with untipped wage less than federal minimum wage ($7.25).

      It seems that more than half of the states make up to ~$1.50 more than federal minimum of $2.13 and the vast majority still make less than federal minimum wage. I’m glad that there are 10 states in which servers can make double digit wages before tips, but there are by no means the majority.

      The point remains that the majority of servers survive on tips because they are paid so little.

      • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.com
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        9 months ago

        No. And you’re being completely disingenuous. Combined wages+tips is the actual minimum wage not the untipped column as employers are required to pay the difference if tips don’t make it to the actual minimum wage.

        • GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world
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          9 months ago

          That’s exactly what I said before.

          I also said that servers earn $2.13/hour at a minimum, as your link shows. I then acknowledged your point that the majority of servers don’t earn $2.13 from their restaurant and adjusted my statement according to the data that you linked.

          I don’t understand where the disconnect is for you. Servers, except in very rare pay period make enough earnings/hour to prevent the restaurant to need to pay them more. Thus, servers in the vast majority of states earn less than federal minimum wage and mamy less than $5/hour from their restaurant. Please note that the customer is not part of the restaurant.

          So my original point still stands. If restaurants were required to pay $15/hour, restaurants would have to increase their pay up to 7 times the current wage. This increase in labor cost would necessitate a menu price increase given the low profit margin that restaurants run at. Sure they have some money set aside for the rare pay period in which a server makes less than minimum wage after tips, but it wouldn’t be enough to cover such an increase for every server during every shift.