China demands Israel halt military operations in Rafah - eviltoast
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    The Iraq War inspired mass protests immediately that set records in several American cities, but sure.

    You are correct though that the narrative has shifted with time. So I take it that this has also happened in China, such that someone could organize a protest on the Tiananmen anniversary, right?

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      Tiananmen

      What a desperate attempt to change the topic.

      Also, just realized that you said that the invasion was a ‘mistake’, not a deliberate lie. Is there a single accusation that the West has leveled against its enemies that you don’t automatically believe?

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        I mean, yes, Bush lied to the American public. This is not particularly controversial.

        And given that the original point was the difference between the ability and willingness of liberals to criticize our own governments relative to tankies, Tiananmen is a perfectly relevant topic, though I’m hardly surprised that you’d clearly like to avoid it. And if randomly bringing up supposedly unrelated topics is something to avoid, might I ask why you brought up WMDs in Iraq in a thread about the Uyghers in the first place?

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          might I ask why you brought up WMDs in Iraq in a thread about the Uyghers in the first place

          Sir, this is a wendy’s (checks title) thread about the ongoing genocide that Israel is perpetrating in Gaza

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          I mean, yes, Bush lied to the American public. This is not particularly controversial.

          It was at the time. And there are still liberals who disagree

          Tiananmen

          Nope, not doing it. This conversation is specifically about the Uyghur genocide conspiracy theory.

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            This conversation is specifically about the Uyghur genocide conspiracy theory.

            Weird, I thought it was about Iraq!

            The fact that the Iraqi invasion was deeply controversial at the time, and this controversy was able to be loudly expressed, stands in very stark contrast to how controversial topics in China’s recent history can be discussed. This is the main point I’m trying to make. I see you follow the lead of the Chinese government by simply refusing to discuss it, and I understand that talking about things that challenge your world view can be uncomfortable, so I’ll do you a favor by allowing this conversation to end.

            I would just point out, though, that if I had responded to your initial comment about WMDs in Iraq with “Nope, not doing it,” you’d probably call me a coward or something.