I hesitate to say that Biden is better than Trump at this point. - eviltoast

This is not me saying at all that Trump is better than Biden; it’s more of an equalization argument that I truthfully can’t see a fiscal difference.

It’s been well known by people like us that the two bourgeois parties are basically the same, but I never really understood how close they were until the last like, 6 months.

Maybe it’s JUST Biden that’s super similar. But regardless, I just don’t see the difference. He spews nice words about trans rights, workers, all of these good things. But the exact same shit that happened under Trump basically happened under Biden. Funding for genocidal states, proxy war funding, funding police, loss of abortion federal protection, separation of kids and parents at the border, etc.

People keep saying Biden is marginally better, where?

I don’t know. I can’t bring myself to vote for any of these guys this time around.

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    9 months ago

    IF he delivered on getting the USA out of NATO

    IF he didn’t bomb Syria and get the approval of the Democrats. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-announces-strikes-syria-following-suspected-chemical-weapons-attack-assad-n865966

    IF he didn’t “solve” the conflict in occupied Palatine by not inviting Palestinian representatives. https://www.startpage.com/sp/search?query=trump+israel+deal&cat=web&pl=opensearch

    Trump also brought sanctions back to Cuba and Iran after Obama removed them.

    Both Democrats and Republicans are terrible. If one votes it is for the lesser evil. There is no choice that doesn’t kill innocent civilians around the world. There is no choice to end the various sanctions. Any good done by one president can be undone by another.

    Voting is not a method towards justice, only a compromise.

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      9 months ago

      Thank you for the information. I am reverting to my natural stance:

      death to the US of AmeriKKKa*

      • US =/= America, Latin Americans and natives are mighty fine, may they get free of the oppressor
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      9 months ago

      But again, at this point I find it impossible to judge who is the lesser evil. I think it’s a distinction without a difference. If I go by body count, Trump is the lesser of two evils because Biden has murdered so many people over his career.

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        9 months ago

        I mean, we shouldn’t forget how botched the response to COVID was in the USA. Not sure if it would’ve been handled any different had it been Clinton, I could try to force an argument that people cared more about COVID prevention when opposing Trump than under Biden, but keeping hypotheticals aside the numbers are grim for Trump’s presidency too.

        • Biden has also botched the pandemic by pretending it’s over. So many people are getting sick and having their quality of life wrecked by this policy. At least under Trump normal people were masking up and taking precautions.

          Trump did horribly at the pandemic, but I think Biden did worse.