Do you guys even know of Adblock Plus? - eviltoast

I literally haven’t seen anyone even mention it anywhere on the internet as if it never existed, when it comes to Ad blockers I always see uBO recommended with absolutely no mention whatsoever of ABP why? What makes it better than ABP? What happened to it? or maybe I’m wrong and ABP is not as well known as I think it is.

I have been using ABP for many years until someday don’t remember when I switched to uBO because I read that it is “the best ad blocker”.

I maybe need a history lesson as everything on the matter seems so vague to me and the whole situation is super weird

  • Doug [he/him]@midwest.social
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    1 year ago

    That’s not at all the same situation. To even get close to similar we’d need to assume that we’re getting either the console or the games for free. Even then it’s still quite a road to even imperfect analogy.

    In the current situation we buy every piece of that puzzle and are still locked out of modifications through obfuscation, proprietary knowledge, and security measures. So that makes the analogy even harder to sell.

    It’s more like ordering a package and being upset about the company’s name appearing on the box/label/receipt.

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            1 year ago

            It’s not a matter of locked vs unlocked. It’s a matter of payment.

            A website also isn’t really a product. When you go to a store you see the things they want you to see. If you go to a restaurant you’re greeted in the way they choose to greet you and are exposed to how they choose to decorate.

            But at the core someone has to pay the bills. If you buy a product you pay for it. If you visit a website that serves ads instead of charging that’s what pays those bills. If you’re refusing to even see them you’re handing that cost to someone else

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              @Doug This concern has no bearing on what happens downstream of you. The question is whether you can lock your product to gather more money to pay your bills with, and whether the person who consumes your product can unlock it meaning you don’t get as much money but they get an unlocked product.

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                1 year ago

                It absolutely has bearing. It’s directly related to how we consider our fellow humans.

                It’s also not simply a question of more money. It can absolutely be a question of any money.

                Is it ethical to consume a product or service put out for sale, in one method or another, to the public without paying for it?

                If a local farmer sells eggs at a farmer’s market would you take one and eat it? Why or why not? Does the number of eggs he has for sale change your answer? What if others are also doing so? You did say there’s nothing wrong with trying to get everything for free before, didn’t you?

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                  1 year ago

                  @Doug I want to know: Does the number of eggs he has for sale change YOUR answer?

                  If not, then what is the difference between you (with five eggs) and Nintendo (with five million eggs)?

                  • Doug [he/him]@midwest.social
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                    1 year ago

                    There’s something perversely amusing, given the conversation, how you seem to expect me to answer your question without seemingly being willing to answer mine.

                    I’ll answer, but not until you’ve extended the courtesy of doing so yourself with the questions you’ve already been asked.