Squabbles, another recent reddit alternative, seems to be taking the doomed "free speech" path - eviltoast
  • Veraticus@lib.lgbt
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    1 year ago

    Are you claiming there is no legitimate scientific provable advantage than trans women have over natural women in sports?

    Yes, and I am provably correct.

    Literally trans people (including trans women!) are competing in Olympics events now. Because as I’ve said over and over again, gender tests are not based on natal sex but hormone levels.

    If trans women had an advantage, they would be crushing their cis competition. But they are not: for example, Laurel Hubbard. Check her out: https://olympics.com/en/news/weightlifting-laurel-hubbard-transgender-three-failed-lifts-tokyo

    You’ve just been watching too much South Park. No one is trying to do compete in opposite-gendered leagues that is not trans, and as I’ve been saying from the start this is just a red herring with regards to trans liberation.

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      You don’t understand what provable means at all. One example of someone who didn’t crush the competition isn’t proof at all. There was a recent trans woman who crushed women weightlifting records, that is an example of your idea being wrong. That person went from ok but not record breaking man to record breaking woman. Are you going to pretend the male genetic advantage had nothing to do with that?

      And let me ask you this, what does a trans woman have to do to be a legitimate trans woman? Does she have to do anything more than say she is a woman? Does she need to take pills to be legitimate? Does she need to shave her beard to be legitimate?

      If all she has to do is proclaim she is a woman, you can’t seriously think that changes her genetic advantage, right? If a person can compete as a man one day and a woman the next, did they lose their male advantage? Or are you going to claim those aren’t real women?

      You can’t ignore that males have a genetic advantage in sports, I think you were even agreeing with that point earlier. How does going from a man to a trans woman overcome biology? It doesn’t. If males have no generic advantage, then why have any women’s sports at all?

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        1 year ago

        If your concern is valid, why did the trans woman weight lifter in the Olympics not easily crush her competition? Where is the source for any of your claims? I linked you my proof; your “common sense” is meaningless.

        Trans women are not dominating sports when included and there seems to be no “male genetic advantage.” Indeed, as I’ve demonstrated over and over again, it is unfair not to include trans people in exactly the same way as it is to not include Black people.

        Your continued sourceless concern trolling is baseless. I’m going to be leaving this conversation because you seem to have nothing more to add. If you have further concerns, I encourage you to reread what I’ve already stated numerous times.

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          If there is no male genetic advantage, why do males completely dominate the best of the best sports, and why do you say we should still have women’s sports in the elite ranks? Clearly males have a genetic advantage in sports, it’s undeniable.

          Again, one trans women, who still did pretty well, doesn’t prove anything. Look at Avi Silverberg, who came out as trans and dominated women’s weightlifting records.

          If you want proof of the male genetic advantage, just look at how they dominate all the sports that are open to males and females, which is basically all the professional sports. Even though it’s open to both sexes, it’s essentially 100% males. You can’t deny the male advantage, it’s clear as day.