Apollo dev released a youtube app for Vision Pro - eviltoast
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    11 months ago

    That’s not anywhere close to anything he said.

    He was perfectly happy to pay reasonable pricing for API access or to pass through ads if Reddit included them as part of the API.

    His issue was that Reddit’s pricing was obscenely more than they generate per user, functionally made it impossible for developers to pass the costs on to the users even if they wanted to, dropped it on him with minimal warning after very recent statements that they had every intention of leaving API access alone, and then repeatedly fucking publicly lied about him when he had the audacity to tell his paying customers what was going on in the very near future.

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      11 months ago

      That’s exactly the vocality I’m referring to.

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        11 months ago

        Except your characterization of it is a lie.

        He never said anything that could possibly be interpreted as being against paying for access to content, or as a subscription to an ongoing service being in any way inappropriate.

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          11 months ago

          It’s not a lie.

          I’m asserting two things:

          1. He formerly produced a free app that was very popular.

          2. He openly discussed the the API pricing changes destroyed the model Apollo was operating on.

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            11 months ago
            1. He did plenty of monetization on the app, and made good money with it with volume that doesn’t exist on Vision Pro. He never said anything implying apps don’t deserve to be paid for.

            2. In literally every discussion he ever had about the API pricing change, he said that he entirely supported their need to monetize the API. His issues were not any sort of issue with the premise of the API changes. It was the specific nature of the API changes very obviously being for the sole purpose of making using the API to make an app impossible, when the app ecosystem was the entire reason Reddit was successful to begin with.

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              11 months ago

              You said I lied and I didn’t. Retract that.

              My assertions are consistent from comment 1

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                  11 months ago

                  Quote the exact words in my first comment that are untruthful

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                    11 months ago

                    All of it. He was never an advocate for software being free or against the right of companies to monetize their API in any context. He was against a specific company using “monetizing” their API as an excuse to make it impossible for third party apps to exist.

                    His position has not changed in any way and there is nothing that is in any way consistent between any of his statements or behavior.