Russia's elite paratroopers and marines are refusing orders to launch 'human wave attacks,' Ukraine official says - eviltoast

Russian marines and paratroopers are refusing to launch certain types of assaults due to concerns over the huge losses other troops are suffering, a Ukrainian official said, per the Kyiv Post.

Nataliya Humenyuk, press secretary for the AFU’s Joint Command South, said that the soldiers considered “themselves ‘elite troops’” and did not “want to go into frontal assaults” typically carried out by former felons and reservists, the outlet reported.

Over the course of the Russian invasion, it has become increasingly reliant on high-risk frontal assaults. It involves waves of attacks that probe Ukrainian positions and seize small portions of territory but cost a huge loss of life.

The Wagner leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin, who was killed in a mysterious plane explosion after leading a failed mutiny in June, described the tactic as a “meat grinder.”

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    A Russian military blogger estimated that 90% of Russian military equipment in the Krynky sector, a village on the east bank of the river, has been destroyed

    Ukraine, where Russian equipment and soldiers end their careers

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    I don’t necessarily trust the word of a Ukrainian official not connected to any intelligence service like Budanov, but with russian reelections in March I guess there’s a need for a little victory, so I suspect there can be a push for more frontal attacks. I’d honestly be afraid of what comes after elections. Grandpa’d absolutely call for another wave of mobilization after securing his position.

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    OR, Ukraine could go all Kelly’s Heroes on them. “You know what’s behind you? All of RUSSIA. And all you have to do to get an equal share is turn that tank around…”

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    Putin: “Some (Most) of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make…”

    Paratroopers/Marines: “Fuck no.”

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Russian marines and paratroopers are refusing to launch certain types of assaults due to concerns over the huge losses other troops are suffering, a Ukrainian official said, per the Kyiv Post.

    Nataliya Humenyuk, press secretary for the AFU’s Joint Command South, said that the soldiers considered “themselves ‘elite troops’” and did not “want to go into frontal assaults” typically carried out by former felons and reservists, the outlet reported.

    The number of ‘Storm-Z’ units (low-grade Russian formations made up older reservists and former convicts) committed to carry out human wave attacks against the Ukraine bridgehead on the eastern side of the Dnipro were now falling, and more naval infantry and paratroopers were being deployed, said Humenyuk

    One of Russia’s newly formed Russian paratrooper units, the 104th Guards Airborne Division, appeared to be hit particularly hard in its combat debut in the Kherson region late last year, the UK Ministry of Defence said in an update on the conflict in December.

    It said the unit “highly likely suffered exceptionally heavy losses and failed to achieve its objectives” during its operations in the area, aimed at dislodging Ukrainian positions near Krynky.

    Conditions in the region have made the conflict difficult for both sides, with marshes, water-filled bomb craters, and mud making it almost impossible for troops to dig in, The New York Times reported.


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    Blitz tactics could work, but I don’t think deploying paratroopers is going to turn the tide once Ukraine realizes what is happening.

    As the same anti drone defensive measures that are used in Ukraine, could also be used against paratroopers.

    Paratroopers would have to take insane risks for a advantage (creating a flanking position). That Ukraine would have advanced knowledge on.

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      I am not sure if Blitzkrieg is really the right word for this. I think it would be to describe them as shock troops. Blitzkrieg usually describes a fast moving battle with no front line. Were light troops and cavalry try to keep the enemy falling back. This is supported by air superiority, all denying the opposing force from forming an organized defense

      Shock troops can be part of that, but the use of shock troops does not always mean a blitzkrieg.

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      Flying cargo planes at low altitudes into enemy territory with loads of MANPADS is a fantastic idea. I’m looking forward to the videos.

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        That’s lemmy.ml aka lemmy.grad or hexbear…since lemmy.grad and hexbear where defederated, it seems all the tankies have jumped over to it now. Hopefully it gets defenderated soon, cause the level of CCP and Russian apologist is astounding.

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          I’d nearly stop using it until they are defederated because they are everywhere now ruining the vibe.

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            Yeah it’s really weird seeing them pop up and support Russia or they get pissed when Taiwan is posted about and how it belongs to china

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          Yea better watch out for the judeo-bolshevism and support western imperialism and fascists.

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            Point to Western fascists please and tell me how they are worse than the authoritarian pricks in charge of Russia and China.

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                Any particular reason everything is black and white that might be relevant here?

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                • Adolf Heusinger (1897 – 1982)
                • Hans Speidel (1897 - 1984)
                • Johannes Steinhoff (1913 - 1994)
                • Franz’Joseph Schulze (1918 - 2005)
                • Ernst Ferber (1914 - 1998)
                • Karl Schnell (1915 – 2013)
                • Johann von Kielmansegg (1906 – 2006)
                • Ferdinand Maria von Senger und Etterlin (1923-1987)

                I love how these are all from yesteryear and just the ones with a Nazi allegiance. You do realize this is not the dunk you think it is, right, boot licker? This literally highlights what NATO is not in present day. 😂

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      What’d’ya know, another shit-babbling gremlin licking the boots of the Kremlin. And from lemmy.ml once again. I’m shocked.