Replacing the term "Metroidvania" - eviltoast
  • brsrklf@jlai.lu
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    edit-2
    11 months ago

    Really not convinced that you can’t call something a genre because it wouldn’t describe different games in a series.

    I’d argue the Wario Land series has mostly changed genres between 1 and 2. First one is a straight platformer that’s basically Super Mario Bros with different abilities, following games are exploration puzzle game things that have a platforming element, but in which platforming is not the main point IMO.

    Resident Evil really forgot it was survival horror for a while.

    Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom are almost nothing like the classic Zelda formula. Free-form puzzle solving, free-er movement, almost zero dungeon structures, consumable weapons…

    Those are significant, because when it happens it’s very likely some people would be more invested in either the old or new games, which incidentally explains why it doesn’t happen that much in established series.

    I know I was initially very disappointed with new Wario, because all I wanted back then was more Mario-style platforming and the intentionally frustrating design of Wario Land 2-3-4 wasn’t for me.

    • Klanky@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      11 months ago

      Your example about BoTW is really good. I never played the earlier Zelda games and had near-zero interest in them. Then a friend let me borrow their BoTW cart and I absolutely fell in love with it. Still no interest in playing the earlier ones though.

      • brsrklf@jlai.lu
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        11 months ago

        I happen to like both, but they’re very different. Like a lot of fans of the rest of the series, while playing BotW I missed the classic dungeon experience. A whole divine beast and a dozen shrines stitched together would be maybe like one dungeon in the main series, and it’d have a new item, it would rely on it a lot with clever riddles and it’d have a unique boss, not just another flavour of Ganon.

        Of course, a classic Zelda game is also a lot more linear in structure, with a world you can only explore bit by bit, and in a set order (mostly, there is a couple of exceptions).