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Do not buy BS internet connected devices period. There was a time when internet connected devices did exactly they were supposed to do and nothing more. There is literally no reason why most of these devices can’t act as their own server and keep your data local and private. Corporations have become far too greedy to trust their cloud won’t sell you out in every way it can. The ONLY two reasons a manufacturer adds internet connectivity are:
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To monitor and collect as much data as possible and/or:
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To implement a subscription service for something that normally wouldn’t require monthly payments.
Corporate closed clouds have proven time and time again that they can’t be trusted.
I do home automation… And no, its not…
They do it because everyone wants to control these appliances when away from home. And port forwarding isn’t an awesome idea honestly.
A lot of the devices we used to port forward honestly, ended up getting hacked because of out of date firmware or whatever
There is literally no reason why most of these devices can’t act as their own server
As much as I dislike cloud stuff. The cloud is by far the easiest solution for support and average users.
Your not dealing with end users calling in and having to diagnose why two devices on their network are not talking to each other.
As long as both your devices have Internet it will work.
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Why would you connect your washing machine to WiFi in the first place? Like legitimate question.
Because water is held in cloud storage
To get notifications when your laundry is done.
As someone with adhd, I could see it being super helpful for me.
Fair point, I didn’t think of that. Any IoT device gets put in the “naughty” vlan and 99% of their outgoing requests goes straight to /Dev/null
I do the same thing. All they’re allowed to talk to is Home Assistant except for when I allow internet access to update firmware.
I need to set up my VLANs 🥺
Its saved my skin once when my retard cousin connected his malware infected laptop to my “I domt control this device” network. Only other thing on the network was my work laptop that has a ton of security on it. More than I even have on my stuff. So it lit up like a Christmas tree and commited suicide. Get a ping from my boss asking what the fuck I downloaded lmao.
You’re making me wanna cry. I need this in my life!
An alarm could likely help you accomplish the same thing without the wifi-connected washing machine.
Whatever works for you works for you, though.
Likely an alarm needs to be set every time, a notification of finished load is likely automatic.
I have an LG washer/dryer. With the app you can add downloaded cycle programs. And you can just have one at the time, and there are two cycles I sometimes swap between. It also gives me a notice when it needs to be cleaned and it has smart diagnostics when something goes wrong. And of course delayed start via app and notification when the wash is done. So there are some benefits, but I still hate it
Those do sound useful. Hook it up to home assistant and send all its external requests to the DNS void.
I have mine in hass… the integration is cloud dependant.
Edit: The stuff I can do in with it in HASS is great though. I can only hope that someone figures out how to skip the cloud requirement all together like they did with some other stuff that I use.
My heat pump can be controlled by an app but it all goes through an external web page for some reason so I noped out of it.
How to check this? I’ve got an LG heat pump…
The reason is so you can control it from anywhere without setting up port forwarding and a static IP. Most people don’t understand, or can be bothered, doing that. I get why you don’t like it, I wouldn’t like it either, but it’s not some conspiracy.
It would be far better if somebody sold a single VPN device for the mass public to be able to access home devices. Something wireguard based could be so simple for people to use. Even better if your ISP had this as a standard feature which they made easy to setup Then none of these devices would have an excuse to go out to the company’s servers. Any that did would be obviously spying and they could be shamed.
Better yet if the lasy ass ISPs would move over to IPv6, ditch CG-NAT and give static addresses for all. I suspect there is a deeper issue as I believe that even on IPv6, mobile phone internet is still hidden behind CG-NAT.
Doesn’t wireguard’s zero config work by relaying through an outside web service? Seems like the LG solution with extra steps.
If you bought a washing machine that needs Internet access you are a fucking idiot.
They don’t need wifi, so no, you’re not an idiot if you buy one and just leave it disconnected
Why pay for features you aren’t going to use?
Most of them don’t have non-wifi variants, at least not that I know of
I have a Speed Queen washer and dryer. Quality products don’t rely on gimmicks, they do their job.
Smart devices are great, but if it’s not Zigbee or Zwave and Home Assistant, it can fuck off.
I like my devices to be dumb but be able to function without internet.
Zwave chips are all made by one company, and the old ones can’t be updated against a newer vulnerability.
But each to their own
That’s data laundering
Damn you! Angry upvote.
Who would buy a washing machine with internet access? Why? Not feeling like you are giving enoigh of your privacy and personal data to Google or FB or Apple? They should just sign up to TikTok, much cheaper.
I don’t understand the craze of slapping wifi or bluetooth connectivity to everything without giving proper thought. Cameras, television, vehicles, coffee pots, medical devices, laundry machines, hipster juicers… what’s next? Is my salt shaker going to have it?
Something something “the internet of things is the future”…
Bloatware has spiraled out of control. It’s a consequence of coding becoming easy and accessible. Programming is no longer the domain of idealistic nerds. It is possible for anyone to make garbage tech wares.
Wait, wait, wait. Let’s not aim at the wrong thing. Programming becoming accessible is a great, and is not the cause of bloat. Bloat is not even something that can be easily pointed to a single cause, and a lot of things played a role, like poor tech education, companies not giving a fuck and relying on hardware replacement, lack of regulations, big tech corporations having practically monopolies and no incentive to create better products, the high demands of timing for projects, etc.
Not to mention plain old fashioned bad management.
