The system is broken - eviltoast
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    10 months ago

    It’s not so simple, my mom purchased a property with her divorce settlement and the return on the investment can be good, but it can also be not as good. She remodeled an Oregon property in Salem and sold it for less than cost later. While she did get rent for it before she sold, she could have saved a lot of effort just buying dividend stocks.

    Real estate can be a good investment, but it can be a poor one.

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      10 months ago

      It shouldn’t be an investment at all. It should be used. It’s like saying water is a good investment. Sure, if you make it artificially scarce and are okay with a ton of people going without… Nestle.

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        10 months ago

        I really wish other better brands would step up in making more consumable products for people with cancer(protein replacement drinks) or children though. It’s really rough when better options are very scarce.

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          10 months ago

          Oh yeah, to be clear I’m not blaming anyone for buying Nestle, it’s nearly impossible to avoid lmao. Sad but true.

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            Yup I get you. I managed to avoid nestle but I know I have a privileged life only because I don’t need particular things in my diet. I have vulnerable relatives where they cannot take such options to avoid nestle what with their situation. And I can’t judge them for it. But It’s not a pass on nestle. Nestle need to smarten the hell up. they have no excuses to be terrible.

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              10 months ago

              I make an effort. The truth is there are s9 many things that are Nestle with no Nestle on the packaging due to the different layers of subsidiary companies. It’s practically impossible to completely avoid them without some smart phone app, database, etc (which may even be inaccurate) or a fuckin encyclopedic knowledge of the different brands lmao. Shits fucked, yo.

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                10 months ago

                Right?!? I spend way too much time researching each product over actual use of the product. I had to deep dive to the level of “where is this product produced and who are their relatives and what is their mother’s maiden name??”

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                  10 months ago

                  There used to be an app or site called “buycott” or something and you could set what you were trying to avoid(example: avoiding human rights violating companies, avoiding specific companies, morals of certain companies, etc.), and you could scan an item and it would tell you. I used it for a tiny bit years ago but didn’t stick with it. Not sure if it’s still around.

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                    10 months ago

                    I dont know if I’m missing something, but I decided to look up nestle…

                    I use coffee mate coffee creamer, but its just coffee creamer. I use Purina dog food because a family member works there, but theres like 100 other dog food brands on chewy, I could use.

                    Idk what I’m supposed to be outraged about. What evil is there in coffee creamer and dog food? Am i missing something?

                    I mean i hate that americans buy wasteful bottled water when they dont need to, but that makes me more angry at Americans. Theres tons of bottled water brands.

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      10 months ago

      This isn’t relevant to the meme at all though.

      Also if your asking me to feel bad for someone trying to make a profit off acting as a middleman to a basic human need you’re barking up the wrong tree.

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            10 months ago

            But… She had money! What, do you expect her not to try to make her gold breed? People with money should get more money! It’s only fair!

            /s

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              10 months ago

              She had a few hundred K, she needs to make that divorce settlement last until she retires. Social Security is absolutely nothing

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                10 months ago

                a few hundred k

                That doesn’t really make me feel sorry for my comment. I make do with <25k a year. A few hundred k would last me over a decade.

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                  10 months ago

                  She spends the same amount of money as you do, she just doesn’t plan on dying in a decade.

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            10 months ago

            My mom is the landlord and remodeling houses IS her work. She was a stay at home mom until I grew up, that’s what she does for a living after she divorced my dad. She lives on the rent of her properties while she does each project

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              10 months ago

              She lives on the rent of her properties

              This is exactly the thing people have issues with. The whole “I am the breadwinner of my landlord’s household.”

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                10 months ago

                That’s why I thought she should just buy stocks and live off dividends instead. I mean, any investment has a rate of return or people would not buy it

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                  10 months ago

                  Yup, and housing shouldn’t be an investment. It can be affordable, or an investment, not both.

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                    10 months ago

                    Then you should support less zoning restrictions and lower development fees to increase the availability of housing.

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            10 months ago

            She’s the one who hired contractors. You need someone who decides what work needs to be done, find the people who are qualified, and pay them.

            Not all contractors do good work, she got scammed once by a guy who does crap labor and tries to upcharge to fix it. It happens

            Even if she sold the houses, the person buying them would probably want a return on their investment and end up renting it out to people

            The only way rent would be cheap is if there was a lot of supply of it, less restrictions on building like zoning, fewer fees on developers.

            • UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT@sh.itjust.works
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              10 months ago

              Look one of my siblings is doing the same thing. I’m happy I don’t have to worry about them financially, but I’m not going to say I wouldn’t prefer they made an honest living

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                10 months ago

                My mom is too old to wash dishes in a restaurant, it’s really hard labor and she has carpal tunnel. She tried, it’s just not something a 60+ year old person is fit to do. So she can’t just sit on that money and do hard labor on the side. But drawing some plans and hiring contractors while painting some walls on her own time is something she can do