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  • TheRealKuni@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    This is the absolute ONLY case where it’s acceptable to call a pizza a pie.

    Never had deep dish, I take it?

      • Victor@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        It’s actually a pie though. It has a surrounding crust casing as well as a filling, which qualifies it as a pie according to Wikipedia.

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          10 months ago

          Wikipedia is sometimes wrong, though. This is the relevant definition:

          A baked food composed of a pastry shell **filled with **fruit, meat, cheese, or other ingredients, and usually covered with a pastry crust

          Meaning that a flat pizza wouldn’t count (those are toppings, not fillings) but a calzone technically would.

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            10 months ago

            Read further. The page also says the crust can be on the bottom and the filling on top/inside, as well as crust on top, filling underneath, or both (calzone). So a deep dish pizza is a pie, technically.

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              10 months ago

              The page also says the crust can be on the bottom and the filling on top

              This is “literally can mean figuratively” level lunacy. If it doesn’t have FILLINGS rather than TOPPINGS, it’s simply not a pie.

              Next you’re gonna tell me that a hotdog is a sandwich (please fucking don’t!)

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                10 months ago

                If it’s not covered and doesn’t have FILLINGS rather than TOPPINGS, it’s simply not a pie.

                Where does that put key lime pie and lemon meringue pie? Or pumpkin pie and pecan pie? Are they not pies because they’re not covered?

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                    10 months ago

                    I understand that. That’s why I was asking the person that made the claim to clarify.

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                  10 months ago

                  Ok, I may have gotten a bit* carried away with the “covered” requirement, but toppings are still not fillings and it’s not a pie if it doesn’t have filling(s).

                  *extremely, ridiculously

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                10 months ago

                I don’t really know what you’re referring to at this point.

                I’m saying:

                • A regular flat pizza is not a pie. It does not have a casing, and the “filling” is a topping, as you say.
                • A (Chicago-style) deep-dish pizza is a pie (more-so than a pizza in my opinion but whatever) because it has a bottom crust with filling on top (a pie according to Wikipedia). That’s not lunacy. It’s right there on Wikipedia, with even a link to Chicago-style deep-dish pizza.
                • A calzone is a pie because it has crust both on top and on the bottom (surrounding the filling), as well as filling inside.

                This is not “lunacy”. It’s just reading a definition and interpreting things to fit the definition. 🤷‍♂️ If you think that’s lunacy I’d hate to tell you about Pluto. A pie with crust on the bottom is very common. Meat pies, and pastry pies, among many others. Crust on bottom is common, crust on top is common. Crust all around is common… Not lunacy.

                I’m going to refrain from talking about hotdogs, because I’ve yet to look up the definition of a sandwich, but I’d rather not at this point lol.

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                  10 months ago

                  Researching Chicago style deep dish pizzas, it would seem that I wasn’t aware of just HOW deep they are. Yep, that’s a pie. I think we’re in full agreement, actually!

                  • Victor@lemmy.world
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                    10 months ago

                    Haha yeah they look ridiculously deep. I can’t imagine how they wouldn’t be kind of soggy with all that filling but I guess it works. Seems to be popular, eh. Would love to try a slice.

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      10 months ago

      Not OP, but I never have, and not sure if I can get any in my area, but I would like to try it some day.

      • TheRealKuni@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Get to Chicago, and don’t shy away from spinach. That shit’s delicious. I’m a fan of Giordano’s, but there’s a lot of valid argument about who does it best.