Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 support will end tomorrow (January 1st 2024) - eviltoast
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    11 months ago

    Why does it matter? What user really cares if it’s Wayland or x11? Software is about solving problems for the user. Mint is far superior to Windows.

    Sent from KDE with x11…

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      11 months ago

      because its unmantained and will not get new features anymore, i dont expect new software and hardware to support it going forward.

      sent from gnome and x11!

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        11 months ago

        It doesn’t need new features and I’m pretty sure any bugs, vulnerabilities will still get ironed out. We both know Wayland will kill x11. The point is, considering we are both using x11, why should a new person from Windows need it now?

        In a few years, my position would be different, but for now, mileage varies and many face use cases it doesn’t yet cover. X11 is mature and mostly just works.

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          11 months ago

          The point is, considering we are both using x11, why should a new person from Windows need it now?

          Depends on their hardware. I use 4 monitors at:

          • 1440p 165hz (FreeSync)
          • 1440p 75hz
          • 1440p 75hz
          • 4k 60hz

          It works better on Wayland. Other users could be in a similar situation.

          iirc, you can’t use FreeSync with multi monitors on Xorg as well

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          11 months ago

          because its dying soon, no need to go all in on it now.

          neither of us will be using it. its already dead if your hardware doesnt include nvidia.

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            11 months ago

            No one is going all in, and once distros retire it, it’s dead. Jumping before distros because you have a rush of blood to the head isn’t particularly helpful.

            My hardware has no Nvidia, but getting screen recording on Wayland was a royal pain in the backside. Functionally, x11 just works better for me right now. When they iron this stuff out and make it effortless, great, but until then, the software still needs maturing.

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              11 months ago

              my point is that this kind of issue will be ironed out anyway and its looking like its gonna be sooner rather than later.

              i dont mind if you are already invested in using xorg and its working out for you (hey, i do too). i just dont see much reason to go into linux for the first time as a noob with it in mind at all.

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                11 months ago

                They don’t need to think about display servers. Just update and it will resolve itself. You’re overcomplicating things and scaring people away from Linux.

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                  11 months ago

                  thats what i said.

                  except recommending unmantained software is bound to cause issues for a layman user, regardless of what it is.