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  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    But when we’re comparing occurrences numerically, of course time matters into it. In comparable time and preferably situations, how many occurrences you’d have.

    Skewing the comparison by using two totally different time frames seems just weird ngl. What would be the point, unless you want some specific result

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      10 months ago

      Skewing the comparison by using totally different countries with totally different situations seems weird ngl. What would be the point, unless you want some specific result.

      Russia and China both had an unfortunate history of famines before any pesky revolutionairies popped their heads up. Examining a longer time period reveals this highly relevant fragility. Also the facts that both of these huge countries were badly underdeveloped at the time of their revolutions: And the period you wish to limit it to had both of the world wars and the extended periods of international instability associated with them: And both countries suffered invasions and other unusual external pressures over a long period of time. These are relevant factors.

      Limiting the time frame for a comparison based solely on a summation of deaths is a leading, manipulation of the study of the phenomena of famines.

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        10 months ago

        Preferably you actually would use the same countries and times, if you could. I’m not sure how you think comparisons usually work lol. You’d try to keep the comparison as similar as possible.

        I’m sorry but I feel like you’re trying to arrive at a certain conclusion rather than doing an honest comparison.

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          10 months ago

          Limiting by time period and a crude summation of deaths is a dishonest framing for any discussion regarding how one political system may be more the catalyst for famine than another. It is basic correlation vs causation. By all means make a cognizant argument that shows how these limits can promote a fair comparison of the political factors that influence a countries descent into famine. I would like to hear something from you that amounts to more than some article of capitalist (bad) faith. I feel that you will struggle to do so because you are not interested in making an earnest effort to understand famine just in weaponising contrived stats.