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Actually I hate it cause my parents and grandparents suffered under it in the GDR. None of them own yachts or houses either.
Socialism isn’t far enough. We need anarcho-com.
The issue isn’t that I don’t like socialism as most proponents describe it. I also like Hogwarts as the books describe it. The issue is I still think trying to build Hogwarts is dumb. Just like trying to implementing socialism the way people described it to me. It just clearly wouldn’t work, because people don’t magically stop being selifsh and greedy for money and power when you change economic systems.
Had an exchange that went like
“The workers don’t know how to run the business”
“Did the owner tell you that?”
“… shit.”
Also workers don’t have to run the business, they can elect / delegate someone to do that.
If that owners managerial skills are truly necessary for the business’ survival then they should have no problem explaining that to their fellow workers and getting elected to manage. They just won’t get all the profit…
I’ve worked for some small businesses that the owners themselves could not be trusted to run operations without fucking everything up.
Size of organizations really is an important factor. For small-medium businesses, the owner probably needs to have the skills to operate things themselves, for medium-to-large the owners skills set changes to people managment (see the Peter Principal). Then you get to the places where the CEOs job is less managing people but setting directives at the request of the board and being the cult of personality/fall-guy for the investors.
Its that last one where I get why it works that way, but its baffling how an organization gets there without someone asking if thats a bad idea.
These were auto shops with 8-15 employees, the owners had started the business when you wrote appointments on a desk calendar and there were three oil filters on the shelf, one for Chevy, one for Chrysler and one for Ford. Ask them to make an appointment or order the correct oil filter for a 2016 Kia Sedona was expecting too much.
What’s more depressing than socialist architecture? Homelessness and starvation in a land with plenty.
you don’t find children dying of exposure because they refuse to put those little hands to use inspiring?
No, they hate “the other” would get treated kindly like them. There are some vengeful/racist garbage that have this “out group” damning thing, which sets us all into the pain with high ass premiums and shit. They paint over their rationalization as “rugged individualism,” but it’s basically “no, <out group> doesn’t deserve the services that I should get.”
And yes, above.
I don’t hate it, I just don’t think it works
Can you elaborate?
I believe when you centralize all economic power in a government it will very likely breed corruption, nepotism and eventually fascism, making it impossible to transition to worker owned means of production.
You’re doing a meme right now. This isn’t what socialism is, textually, like, not even related.
What is it then?
Isn’t anarchism a form of socialism though? It doesn’t have to be centralised.
May I add the “owning vast media conglomerate mega-phone allowing the yacht owner to blast said explanation to the entire world” part?
The people explaining it to me: no yacht but username@lemmy.ml
Imagine your politician showing up at the Ford dealership telling you you’ve been cut off. You can’t buy another Ford F-150 King Ranch they say. You look up at the American flag and it is red with yellow stars.
I don’t think a trans person from Twitter has a yacht
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bad platform example.
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Oh yeah because Russia and China are totally socialist yep, yep
Man, Russia and China sure do have lots of socialist policies!
There’s socialism outside of the ML USSR and China.
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That’s a lazy approach
It also doesn’t make any sense, as the ideology rather obviously influences who will get elected, if there are even elections
We’ve tried the other one so far, how do you feel it’s going?
Have you ever thought that ideologies are the ideas of a person and that bad people have bad ideologies, ever heard of nazism or fascism? Do you think they would be awesome if the best person in the world was using them? I doubt
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Have you read too many Dr. Doom comics?
you don’t think systems matter at all? so if a good fundamentally decent guy was managing white supremacist chattel slavery, it would be fine?
Absolutely not, that much should be obvious.
Good people will ignore or bend the system for good, evil people will use it to be even more evil.
