Right-Wing Trolls Are Freaking Out After Learning They Can Get Sued For Calling People 'Groomers' On The Internet - eviltoast

Other right-wing accounts variously reacted by describing the move as Orwellian, lamenting the death of free speech and even contemplating leaving Canada for good.

Oh no. Not that. Please no.

<Tee hee!>

  • ArbiterXero@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Noooope, not at all.

    Please read ANY of my comments.

    I don’t care about this case at all. It’s great, glad they got prosecuted.

    I care about the fact that the government is currently trying to push through a bill invading our privacy to try and “prosecute more of these”

    That’s why the article exists. There are thousands of cases of defamation every day, why care about this one?

    This is all done to try and convince you that new laws are needed, when this case was successfully prosecuted on existing laws.

    The article is rage-bait to get you worked up about this specific case of defamation.

    In this case, privacy was respected and subpoenas were required. They want you amped up to skip that “due process”

    Please re-read before you reply.

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      11 months ago

      That train of thought doesn’t make sense. “We need to pass this new law because [gestures at this case] existing laws already work”? If anyone were trying to drum up public support, they would want cases where people got away with it, and this ain’t it.

      I might also add that if everyone is misunderstanding what you’re trying to say here, you’re either not explaining it very clearly or your theory simply doesn’t stand up.

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        11 months ago

        That’s my entire point. Existing laws work.

        But yet they’ll say “there’s so much of this that we need new laws”

        In fact if you Google it, they’re trying to push new ones through now. Coincidence? Maybe.

        So since you’re right, the argument doesn’t make sense, why do you believe that the following proposed laws exist?

        https://globalnews.ca/news/10178476/liberals-online-harms-bill-not-regulating-speech/

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          11 months ago

          Two things can both be true without one being caused by the other.

          1. Current laws work
          2. The Liberals are trying to enact laws that excessively curtail privacy, similar to those in the UK

          This doesn’t mean that 2 is caused by 1 or that they have anything to do with each other at all. Not everything has to play into some grand conspiracy. If anything, this case severely undermines the Liberals’ position.

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            11 months ago

            We have an agreement!

            This current case undermines the suggestion that new laws are needed.

            I would agree that the two are unrelated, but I’ve found that all too often one is used as a false stepping stone to the other.

            The classic “won’t someone please think of the children!” Argument.

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              11 months ago

              If I may make a suggestion, I would approach future discussions by pointing to this case as a good thing for privacy, since it shows we don’t need to implement draconian measures like the Liberal proposal in order to prosecute crimes. Your negative framing here is what threw others off track.

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                11 months ago

                Noted.

                I still maintain that this article is meaningless rage-bait designed to garner support for new laws.

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                  11 months ago

                  I genuinely believe the opposite is true. Anybody opposing those laws should wave this in the Liberals’ faces. “See? The system already works.”