(or as I call it, lead-kopper99 😀)
Do you believe it’s a hoax? Or real but not entirely as good as promised?
I am 5050 on it being real ATM, I hope it will allow us to find even new elements with interesting characteristics. Science really is like magic, but real.
There are about a zillion ways it could prove to be impractical. Apatite is a crystal, and presumably this lead apatite is also a crystal. We also don’t know if it can be deposited in a useful thickness; the samples tested so far were created by gas deposition on glass. Can it be built up to a useful thickness, and maintain its superconducting properties? All unknown.
But, real progress always comes in small steps. It’s exceedingly rare for any discovery to result in a useful product immediately.
Great comment. However let’s not forget the history of many exotic materials which were made practical to manufacture after their useful properties were found. Consider many types of semiconductors, blue LEDs, carbon fiber, etc. All once super expensive but now commonplace. This makes me at least somewhat optimistic that if a material is useful enough (and a superconductor would be revolutionary) fabrication will be solved. Hopefully.
Sure… but for every 1 of those examples, there are 100 or 1000 variants that showed astonishing properties in the laboratory that were never manufactured at scale due to cost or other undesirable material characteristics.
Lead apatite may turn out to be an important step, or maybe not. When Paul Chu made the first big breakthrough with yttrium/barium superconductors at liquid nitrogen temps, everybody thought that workable room temperature superconductors were right around the corner. That was almost 40 years ago. As of right now, we don’t know whether “room temperature superconductivity at scale” is 1 year or 1 century away. It’s closer, probably? That’s about all we can guess.
Yes, a lot of people are very excited about applications that would require this material in bulk, like power transmission, and I don’t see this happening with the fabrication methods we have now. Still incredibly excited about this, though, and crossing my fingers that the results can be replicated and confirmed quickly!
I don’t know if it’s real or not. I’ve downloaded and read the papers published; materials science isn’t my field, so all I can really do is look for egregious falsehoods set in place to bulk up the word count. I didn’t see anything obvious.
I think it’s interesting that there are several major scientific institutions replicating the experiment and running serious analyses of the outputs (First-principles study on the electronic structure… https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16040) (Origin of correlated isolated flat bands… https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16892). Additionally, replications of the experiment are showing positive results (Meissner levitation of samples they synthesized themselves).
http://koreascience.or.kr/article/JAKO202315638176796.page
https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.01516
If the big, famous labs are putting time and money into replicating the results and doing serious analysis, and are getting positive results (as well as successfully replicating the experimental results), that’s a pretty positive sign.
If I understand correctly I compare it to Graphene which has been around for a very very long time but still is not being used much yet.
The fact big labs are replicating and still haven’t disproved it makes LK99 more likely to be real - a disproval would take longer and carry lesser reputation cost if they get it wrong (higher rep cost if they confirm LK99 is working and turns out it isn’t)
I hope you’re right!
It’s either real or its not real. So yeah 50/50 chance.
good thinking there ;)
