Bill Flavell on religion - eviltoast
  • lingh0e@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    What Wanda sees as a tornado sent by God, Debbie sees as the result of observable weather patterns. You can worry about who’s right, or you can realize that they are both right from their own respective world views.

    Tornadoes are not sent by god, and no amount of belief makes it “right”. Even worse, it becomes harmful when people think a tornado is divine punishment against things that offend their faith.

    So no, science and faith are not the same.

    • GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I’m not saying religion is right. I’m trying to say we’re all wrong. Nobody is right, and when no one’s right, everyone’s right.

      We have the scientific method now, which is great. It’s still just a framework we use to understand the physical world around us. Just as religion is a framework to understand the spiritual world around us.

      Based on the sub, I assume you’re an atheist and believe in the scientific method. (correct me if I’m wrong) Assuming that’s the case, I would imagine that you understand that even our most rigorously tested facts would become fiction the moment someone was able to prove them wrong.

      If you lived and died before we found out the world was round… In the reality you occupied, the world was flat. It does not matter what the “real” reality of the situation was. You lived and died with that fact contributing to your world view.

      You and I have more than a few facts in our heads right now that will one day be fiction.

      If you’re still reading…

      From you and the other guy’s reply I get the sense that your issue is with people. People who abuse faith to try to get the world to match their view instead of the other way around.

      The only sources of good or evil in this world come from intelligent life. We invented it as far as we know. Everything else is just part of the machinery of the universe existing without moral motivation.