What's the fundamental difference between Fediverse/ActivityPub/Lemmy and the Usenet? - eviltoast

After reading a bit about Usenet, it seems to me as if the whole Fediverse seems to be just a reinvention of Usenet.

What’s the big difference?

      • inspxtr@lemmy.world
        7·
        1 year ago

        Yeah it felt like it, at least. The first difference about origin and era threw me off; people in general are not interested in it and would probably not list the facts like that.

        It felt uncomfortable and disingenuous reading it. I would have preferred if it ended with either “This is written by Chat-GPT” or “I used Chat-GPT then edited it”. Like the TLDR/Peertube bot on Lemmy, at least they sign it with their identity when they’re bot accounts.

        • Square Singer@feddit.deOP
          21·
          1 year ago

          Yeah, the point of the question was not “You know, Usenet is older than Fediverse”. I actually stated exactly that in the question.

        • manitcor@lemmy.intai.techEnglish
          11·
          1 year ago

          as time goes on i think techs that mark human made content will be more practical.

          the only reason that read as “off” is because the poster did not put any time into it, prob just a simple question in a default chat somewhere. well made systems tuned to thier use are going to be surprisingly effective.

          • inspxtr@lemmy.world
            2·
            1 year ago

            as time goes on i think techs that mark human made content will be more practical.

            I hope it does not lead to the dead internet theory

      • manitcor@lemmy.intai.techEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        i think it may have been. might as well, even if you put in time writing its likely to be assumed AI anyway, esp as it improves.

      • kescusay@lemmy.world
        21·
        1 year ago

        Definitely. Humans don’t write that way unless they’re paid to. It reads like bland marketing material.

    • Square Singer@feddit.deOP
      91·
      1 year ago

      This looks like written by ChatGPT, and it is in many ways straight up off-topic or wrong.

      • Origin/Era: yeah, duh. That was already stated in the question.
      • Architecture: It doesn’t actually show any differences, it just doesn’t talk about different parts of the architecture. Usenet is also federated and Fediverse instances also don’t store all messages.
      • Content structure: This is the closest to an actual answer. But from what it seems, the default use case of the Usenet is identical to Lemmy.
      • Protocols: Stated in the question. NNTP is also federated.
      • Moderation: This is straight-up wrong. There are moderated and unmoderated newsgroups, same as there are moderated and unmoderated instances/communities on the fediverse.
      • Modern Relevance: This whole section is irrelevant to the question.
      • Madiator2011@lm.madiator.cloudEnglish
        35·
        1 year ago

        Sorry I should marked it as AI :) From my experience usenet is more uncesored compared to fediverse. The most issue with fedi is that there is no tru replication system (mayby except sometimes data might be cached on other instance).

    • Varyag@lemm.ee
      81·
      1 year ago

      Don’t. Use your own words or don’t even respond to the thread.

    • Treczoks@kbin.social
      1·
      1 year ago

      Well, we had posts, discussions, and even media in USENET back then. The only real differences I see are that fediverse is more modern and media-aware, and that people actively battle spam/bots/trolls, which in my time on usenet was not really an issue, though.