Vote against Trump 2024 - eviltoast
  • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    Just because there isn’t a better option doesn’t mean you have to choose a bad option that’s literally the deffinition of the illusion of choice.

    If somebody told me theybwere either going to slap me in the face or kick me in the balls and I said “what about I pick neither of those things” would you also show up to smugly lecture me

    Especially if I was using the time to do things that would actually protect people from the consequences like setting up communal support structures to get together and make sure nobody gets slapped or kicked

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      1 year ago

      Okay, are you using your time to set up communal support structures for people? Or are you just using the amount of time you save by not voting (which is generally 5 minutes saved for every 12 months lived) to do that?

      Also, voting for Biden is like getting punched in the face. Voting for Trump is like getting punched in the face and having your right to vote for anything (face punches or any possible alternative) revoked. Not voting for either is like saying “eh, they’re both just the same to me”

      • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        11 months ago

        You dipshits realize you sound dumb as hell when you say that if Trump gets elected nobody will vote again right.

        You said the exact same thing last time and then somehow managed to lose an election to him thanks to brilliant electoral strategies like not campaigning in keybstates and then he was voted out 4 years later.

        Also I am not going to be lectured on how effective or thorough my communal support systems are by some dumbshit lib lecturing me on how important it is to vote for a Democrat presidential candidate as a resident of New York.

        If Jesus Christ came down waving a black and red flag it would still be a waste of time to vote in federal elections, let alone taking time out of my day to do it for somebody actively carrying out a genocide.

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          11 months ago

          I didn’t say anything about the effectiveness of the communal support structures you mentioned. I think spending time putting effort into that is extremely valuable and important.

          You said that if you didn’t waste time voting you’d have more time to put your efforts into communal support structures so I challenged you on that and you didn’t respond to that challenge.

          So again I ask: do you put your time into developing or reinforcing communal support structures for other people?

          I do not but I consider that a failure on my own part. I’ve been looking for ways I can help my community which won’t burn me out quickly on top of my dreary job.

          • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.net
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            11 months ago

            Fuck off nerd go pearl clutch elsewhere.

            I’m saying take all the effort and time you would waste worrying about the futility of electoral politics and go organize a food drive.

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              11 months ago

              I understand being angry about the state of American politics but I don’t understand why you’re venting your anger at me. I’ve been continuing this conversation because I legitimately would like to understand your point of view and potentially be persuaded.

              • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.net
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                11 months ago

                Because for somebody who wants to understand my point of view you sure are spending a lot of time writing replies after I explicitly stated it three times.

                Electoralism is pointless at anything above a county level, national democrats aren’t any better than Republicans, and even if they were the chances of them learning how to stop enthusiastically jumping on rakes is slim. You’ve done more to reduce human suffering by giving a homeless person a dollar than any kind of electoralism the DNC wouldn’t immediatly put out a statement condemning.