Pfizer is sued by Texas over COVID vaccine claims - eviltoast

This all revolves around conservatives focusing on ARR instead of RRR numbers on vaccine efficacy. Here’s a description I found of the difference from another article:

Let’s say a study enrolled 20,000 patients into the control group and 20,000 in the vaccine group. In that study, 200 people in the control group got sick and 0 people in the vaccine group got sick. Even though the vaccine efficacy would be a whopping 100%, the ARR would show that vaccines reduce the absolute risk by just 1% (200/20,000= 1%). For the ARR to increase to 20% in our example study with a vaccine with 100% efficacy, 4,000 of the 20,000 people in the control group would have to get sick (4,000/20,000= 20%).

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    I can’t believe I’m going to bat for Pfizer, but apparently I hate deliberate, selective ignorance even more than greed. Oh well.

    Paxton said the claim was based on only two months of clinical trial data…

    It was a GLOBAL HEALTH CRISIS, you fucking morons. Millions of people died. Have you already forgotten how serious and urgent the situation was? Speedy availability of a vaccine was more important than lengthy, time-consuming tests.

    Ask your god-king Trump. He’s the one who threw bushels of money at pharmaceutical companies and ordered them to solve the problem quickly.

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      Paxton’s claim is also a lie. We didn’t just invent vaccines a few years ago. They’ve been around for two or three generations now.

      Not like they were working from scratch as far as efficacy. All the ingredients are well known. The only thing new was the the particular mRNA, that’s like saying steaks need two years of clinic trials because it comes from a different family of cows, has slightly different DNA, like saying Coke needs two years of trials when they make a new flavor.

      Then after you take it, we can do the blood test after the injection and see the antibodies. What more is there to know?

      What’s the mechanism that they are claiming the vaccine can be harmful? Why is this vaccine unique as compared to any other, proven safe for decades vaccine?

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        I’m merely hoping for a competent judge who accepts logic and the scientific method. Not even a great judge, just a basically sane and reasonable one.

        I remember when I used to take that for granted. I’m having an “ignorance is bliss” moment.

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        If half the country wasn’t a bunch of anti-science religious dipshits, mRNA vaccines would be recognized as the greatest achievement of my lifetime.

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        Whole cell/virus vaccines have been around forever. Grog got some dirt on his hands while hunting ibex? Congrats, that’s a vaccine!

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      Don’t feel bad for going to bat for them. I have done some work for them. Pharm companies are True Neutral alignment. Condemn the things they do wrong, praise the things they do right.

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        The red vs blue ratio is really close in Texas. If all the liberals leave then the state is lost to the rural conservatives. I’d rather stay and fight for a better future.

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        Paxton said the claim was based on only two months of clinical trial data

        I love how he says this as if most of the country world wasn’t desperately waiting for something to come out as soon as possible, especially Republicans who were in their own tug of war of trying to cast it all as nonsense while wanting it available to get all these lazy people back to work in the office. They had to provide efficacy estimates. What the hell did he expect them to do?

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    Texas as a whole really doesn’t understand a lot of things. I’m not saying they’re stupid, but I’m also not not saying it.

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    I hate that my tax dollars keep funding these jackasses. Can’t wait to move out of this failed state.

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    And the magical thing about all of this is that even if the court takes the case and rules that there was no wrong doing. They will just chalk it up that it is because Gates, Soros, Rockefeller control the government and they never expected the trial to be “fair”.

    No matter what the outcome will be, it will prove that they were right in their eyes.