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  • RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Without cash, you can’t have privacy. All card or contactless payments are logged and probably sold to advertisers or anyone with enough cash who wants that info.

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      1 year ago

      Very true. But those advertisers and data brokers (and governments) have convinced most people that the convenience is worth it, and that only criminals desire that level of privacy.

      • RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        They can’t stop me from using cash if I want to though. It is legal tender for all debts, public and private.

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          1 year ago

          It is legal tender, but you can’t force people to accept cash in their own businesses. Before you walk into a store, they can say we do not accept cash. By walking in and buying, you agree to not use cash

          • RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            Yeah but that doesn’t happen. Cash payment is the default standard that backs up the other forms of payment that depend on Internet / phone infrastructure and electricity.

            No business that I have ever patronized has refused cash, but many have been cash only and were not able to accept cards or contactless payment. Power outages, Internet outages, etc all can bring down payment systems’ infrastructure.

            That’s how it is in the USA, and it’s a good system. Cash is reliable and puts the entire monetary purchasing power into the literal hand of the citizens, versus cards and other digital payment systems that can be controlled by authorities to deny your access to your own money.

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              1 year ago

              It does around here (Norway). I’ve never even seen how our cash looks like since the late 00s.

              The US is a shit system made for fucking the average tax player in the ass

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                1 year ago

                Sounds like you don’t know what you’re talking about. This all works fine in the USA for us, it’s not a bad system at all.

                I have ALL options available to me - cards, contactless payment, cash, credit, whatever. I celebrate the fact that cash is an option that lets me avoid having every data-hoarding entity collect records of my purchases.

                Taxes aren’t fucking me anywhere, I pay them and I get government services and infrastructure in return. Taxes aren’t hurting me at all in fact.

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          1 year ago

          Debts, yes. But businesses don’t have to accept cash if you pay before the service is rendered or the product is purchased.

          • RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            Businesses in the USA, especially regions with a higher proportion of black or hispanic residents, will go out of business if they stop accepting cash. It’s not going to happen.