YSK: Your Lemmy activities (e.g. downvotes) are far from private - eviltoast

Edit: obligatory explanation (thanks mods for squaring me away)…

What you see via the UI isn’t “all that exists”. Unlike Reddit, where everything is a black box, there are a lot more eyeballs who can see “under the hood”. Any instance admin, proper or rogue, gets a ton of information that users won’t normally see. The attached example demonstrates that while users will only see upvote/downvote tallies, admins can see who actually performed those actions.

Edit: To clarify, not just YOUR instance admin gets this info. This is ANY instance admin across the Fediverse.

  • SkyNTP@lemmy.mlEnglish
    504·
    1 year ago

    Ah, the old Reddit Lemmy switcharoo.

    You are probably seeing two very different vocal minorities, and conflating the two.

    Also, there’s a very clear difference in expectations between posting/commenting and upvoting. I blame the UI. We naturally expect public actions to be easily visible. The lack of universal accessibilty to the public data makes people unaware that the data is public. Lemmy UIs, including apps, need to make this information (a list of upvoting users) universally publicly accessible before people will change their expectations.

    • kennydidwhat@lemmy.worldEnglish
      32·
      1 year ago

      On the contrary, I’m not conflating two specifics. I’m speaking in general terms about the demonstrable public perception (read: billions of social media users who happily hand over their data vs. the palpable unease over data publication in all walks of tech discussion) and how it is innately hypocritical.

      It is perfectly normal and useful to discuss societal contradictions. For example: “We hate school shootings, but we do fuck-all to stop them from occurring.” That statement does not conflate two different vocal minorities, it purports to accurately describe the generalized societal contradiction at hand.

      The rest of your post is completely off-topic.

      • sauerkraus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        31·
        1 year ago

        Why does the person have no problem sharing their address with the DMV but gets upset when their address is leaked publicly? Curious. They claim to value transparency, but oppose doxxing?

        • kennydidwhat@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          1 year ago

          Is this sarcasm?

          The DMV is government-regulated and has a legal duty to safeguard your data. Unlike the corporations we were happily discussing before you decided to try out as Ben Shapiro.

          • sauerkraus@lemmy.worldEnglish
            21·
            1 year ago

            Corporations have a financial interest in safeguarding your data. It’s not valuable to advertisers if it can be gathered for free.

            People enter into contracts with individual entities regularly without expecting that any rando could join at will.

            • kennydidwhat@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              1 year ago

              I really didn’t expect to have to read this corpo-apologist BS here.

              You’re sick, please get well.

              • sauerkraus@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                1 year ago

                Capitalism causes enough actual problems that you don’t need to make up more. Making your data available to businesses is marginally more secure than publishing it freely.