I know this topic has been done ad nauseam but I’m stuck in a decision loop that looks something like this…
“…OK screw it, I’m going to stop talking about it just get a [non-enterprise/non-rack] Synology/QNAP NAS. I rent an apartment and they have a much smaller footprint and low power draw out of the box. Damn, it really costs that much for 4 bays with entry level hardware? NIC and RAM upgrade costs how much??? What if Synology abandons that model? Where’s the fun in this solution anyway…”
“…OK I’m going to look at going DIY instead. It’s more interesting, more customisable, virtually unlimited support, can be cheaper. Man that case is big and ugly… hey that ITX case looks alright. Wow consumer ITX boards are expensive, rather limited, and look like they will suck power too. Woah OK enterprise ITX mainboards are not in my budget. Hmm that aliexpress NAS board looks alright, but could be a dice roll. Do I really have time for this anyway? OK screw it I’m getting a Synology…”
And so on… I get all the pro’s and con’s of each, and that’s part of the issue!
Ultimately homelabbing is a hobby, and if I wasn’t such a nerd I would have bought a turnkey solution already or just paid Big Tech for the solutions I require.
On the other hand, the storage is a critical part of the infrastructure and could suck the fun out of the hobby. Maybe it’s best to pay for a solution created by people smarter than me (and paid for their time), so I can spend time on fun things that aren’t mission critical.
So I want to hear from fellow nerds, which path did you chose and do you regret it?
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I’m kinda both.
I have a QNAP at home that served me well for 8 years, a big QNAP (forgot model number) in my lab at work with a dozen or so 3.5”, 4x 2.5”, and expansion for pcie. I find expansion and growth difficult. Like my old QNAP can’t do 10gbe and is stuck with an Atom cpu and a few GB of ram.
It’s expensive especially compared to buying something like a 28c/256GB ram Dell R730, an HBA, and a EMC disk shelf that I now use at home for TrueNAS. For ~$600, I have up to 16 2.5” and 15 3.5” bays, 4x 10gbe, more ram than I know what to do with, and much more capability. Porting my ancient WD Red 5400rpm from my old QNAP into this NAS I’m getting ~400MBps because of the cache and its bananas.
Turnkey with some serious regrets.
I just need a simple way to store my data and back it up. I went with a Synology DS1621+ and I also have a DS218j.
Things that really had me questioning my choice:
- Both of them are the noisiest enclosures I’ve ever encountered. Rattling all over the place and having to hack the case to stop things from rattling. It drives me crazy. I paid over a thousand dollars for a case that I need to hack to keep my sanity.
- Power consumption. The DS1621+ uses 35W at idle, even when the disks are not spun up and another 55W for 6 disks that never spin down (I’ve tried everything). That’s 90W. The idea is that this would run 24/7 but that ends up being over $225/year. This consumes as much power as my 5950X w/ 6800XT at idle. That’s insane to me.
- Fear of vendor lockup and restrictions on what I can do with the hardware. Out of the box, Synology doesn’t allow NVMe volumes. I can run a script to enable it, but I really dislike the fact that they are intentionally restricting what I can do with my device.
So I’m downgrading my Ryzen machine to a low power APU and going to use it as an all flash server. Will use TrueNAS and just have my SMB shares. Only going to boot my Synology once a day for a couple hours to back up everything so I have my second copy. The one thing I like about the Synology devices is that it’s super easy to schedule on/off time windows.
So annoyed that I spent all this money on the DS1621+ and it’s just going to act as a backup server. Will probably look to replace the DS1621+ as a backup eventually too.
Thanks for that, good insights. Interesting to hear about noise and power consumption of these devices because that’s supposed to be a selling point. As you said, disappointing considering the price tag.
I am leaning more towards DIY now…
I voted DIY - No regrets. Myself (and a lot of others here) run used/surplus enterprise hardware that’s cheap/free. You’re kind of missing an option for that.
My primary NAS is a PowerEdge T620 with 13x 8TB HDDs (8 in the built in drive cages, 5 more in a caddy that fits in the 3x 5.25" bays). The server and the drives were free/surplus, but I bought an upgraded pair of CPUs (E5-2695 v2’s) , 128GB of RAM, and the drive caddy, for probably $200 total. It’s getting a little long in the tooth and I’ll be keeping my eye out for something newer (and less power hungry) during the next round of decommissioning.
This scratches my ‘play with enterprise hardware’ itch and is easier on the wallet upfront, but the power cost is probably more in the long run.
Also, you’ll likely get very different answers in the polls here vs in r/synology or similar. You’re asking homelabbers here, so you’re going to get homelab answers. But that’s okay, because it sounds like you fit in just fine here!
Yeah my old job was always decomissioning stuff and I had to stop taking it because my grilfriend was not impressed by the pile of old tech collecting dust that I was “doing something with”. Lots of old workstations but never any old server hardware… which was a good thing because I would have taken it and there’s definitely not the space for it in my appartment.
I currently have a jerry-rigged “NAS” made out of some odds and ends that I use to store my linux iso collection. It’s getting full and I wouldn’t trust it with my personal files anyway. So it’s time to bite the bullet and add a real dedicated NAS that’s not going to fall over (physically and metaphorically) at the slightest touch.
I’ve been lurking on r/homelab for a while, and I was after homelab answers haha. I wanted to hear from people who have similar interests to me, and I got the range of perspectives I was hoping for! If I wasn’t a such a nerd then I’d go out and buy a Synology box right now.