Drivers Tend To Kill Pedestrians At Night. Thermal Imaging May Help. - eviltoast

Drivers Tend To Kill Pedestrians At Night. Thermal Imaging May Help.::Pedestrian automatic emergency braking (AEB), which may become mandatory on U.S. cars in the future, tends to not perform well in the dark.

  • Pxtl@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    If you cannot drive safely around pedestrians in normal street clothes, you should not be driving. You are the one bringing a lethal machine into the equation, they’re just out living.

    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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      1 year ago

      Then please enlighten me as to how you manipulate the laws of physics to increase the reflectivity of clothing while your night vision is impaired by all the headlights at face level angles too far to the left?

      Defensive driving is acknowledging problems and trying to mitigate them. Stupidity is pretending there isn’t one

      • justJanne@startrek.website
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        1 year ago

        The law says, regardless of the speed limit, you need to be driving slow enough to react to someone suddenly stepping on the road. If you can’t do that while driving at the speed limit, you’ll just have to drive slower.

            • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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              1 year ago

              I guess people angrily speeding past and honking means they would hit the ninjas, so… kudos.

              Unless they just get angry and blast high beams into my rear mirrors even more.

              Don’t disrupt the flow of traffic

              • justJanne@startrek.website
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                1 year ago

                The speed limit isn’t a suggested speed, it’s an absolute maximum (excluding motorways with a minimum of 60km/h). If the road is frozen over you can’t drive the speed limit either, the same applies when it’s slippery due to rain or leaves or when the lights are off.

                You always need to be able to react to sudden movement, no matter if it’s a pedestrian crossing the street, a motorist leaving their own driveway or even a trash can rolling into the road. It should be in your own best interest to avoid accidents.

                The entitled attitude you ascribe to the overtaking drivers but also display yourself is just going to cause problems for everyone. Trying to shave a few seconds off of your commute by speeding in dark areas isn’t going to get you home any faster, all you’re doing is increasing your own stress level and risking someone’s life.

                A little bit of respect on the road would go a long way to improve everyone’s experience on the road.

                • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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                  1 year ago

                  Ignoring the massive disruption that going below the speed limit causes and the increased aggression it instills in other drivers who understand how to follow the rules of the road:

                  A sedan is, on average, 1302 kg according to a random quora page. 45 miles per hour is approximately 20.116 meters per second. So about 26.191 newton seconds. People aren’t surviving that.

                  So unless you are battling entitlement by going thirty miles under the speed limit (which will probably still squish a person but I am too lazy to math it), all you are doing is antagonizing everyone around you while filling yourself with a false sense of security.

                  Seriously, and I mean this from the bottom of my heart, take a defensive driving course. Defensive driving is about learning to anticipate the drivers around you and how to minimize the chance of a collision. Which is not the law you learned in driver’s Ed. It makes you a much safer driver and will probably lower your insurance premium.

                  That means driving in a way that doesn’t anger everyone around you and knowing when you actually need to slow down and when doing so won’t help

                  • justJanne@startrek.website
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                    1 year ago

                    First off, city streets are by law limited to 50km/h (30mph) in Germany unless the road is physically blocked off from pedestrian access and is designated a motorway. And even that speed is only allowed for major thoroughfares, most city streets are limited to 30km/h (18mph), and many cities are currently arguing for banning 50km/h on city streets entirely.

                    Streets faster than that need to be physically separated, well-lit, need to have an additional lane or frequent additional locations to park broken down vehicles and need significant setbacks so you can see potential obstructions entering the road early enough to brake in time.

                    So what I’m taking from this is that the road design where you live is dangerous and substandard.

                    Now, to the personal appeal:

                    I did take a defensive driving course before I even started driver’s ed, and it was actually the reason I decided not to get a car. Nowadays I do everything — including weekly grocery runs — by bicycle instead.

                    The average speed in cities is 15-20km/h, primarily caused due to traffic jams and waiting times at stoplights. I can achieve or beat those speeds on a bicycle just as well, without the stakes being as high. If I make a mistake as a driver, it’s going to cost lives. If I make a mistake as a bicyclist, no one’s going to die. And considering the environmental footprint as well as the monetary costs in terms of road tax, fuel prices and maintenance, it’s definitely worth it.

                    Even if sometimes, people try to kill me by overtaking me far too close while speeding.

    • Bruno Finger@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Sure but people can be a little more sensible to think not to dress as a fucking ninja at night and expect to be seen?

    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      You clearly have never driven at night.

      Edit: Also, the idiot wearing dark clothes walking into a road at night will still be just as dead whether the driver is considered culpable or not.

      As a motorcyclist of 30+ years, this is a rule you either learn early or pay the price.